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Posted (edited)

I just need some clarification on a couple things.

I have had a flower happy mule with inflorences several years now, however being a "sterile" mule (Butia x Syagrus) I always prune them before the pollen gets all over the driveway. This spring I didn't get around to it. But I did note that some fruit did set and started to swell. But again being a mule, I decided the seeds would not be viable, so I pruned it off.

Now today I looked up at one of my queens that flowered at about the same time and it has seeds about the same growth stage as the Mules was. It was assisted by pollinating bees.

My question is. Could the mule cross with the queen or vise versa. 

Could I have a random Sx(Bxs)

and had I not removed the frond of the mule, the seed that did set being (bxs)xs?

In the future can I save the pollen of the mule and hand pollenate other butia and Syagrus etc..

Second question: I have a hybrid that more closely resembles a Syagrusxbutia. Are they self fertile?

I collected a few hybrids that came out of nursery stock supplied mostly from Florida and California that I noticed were hybrids of unknown origin.

Edited by Collectorpalms

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted

I think I've read of this mule type (BxQ) having fertile pollen, but not not able to self pollinate (F2). It may have occurred while Merril Wilcox was creating hybrids. I do have documentation for the following mule type:

Syagrus romanzoffianum x (Butia (mutt) x Jubaea) in 3 locations:

    Algarve, Portugal          '06
    Los Altos, CA       May  '10
    Walnut Creek, CA         '09

HTH,

Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 102°, Lo 63°

 

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Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

Posted

The queen will pollinate the Mule. The Mule however highly unlikely it will pollinate the queen.

Posted
5 hours ago, ErikSJI said:

The queen will pollinate the Mule. The Mule however highly unlikely it will pollinate the queen.

agreed

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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