rhapis species

[gyuseppe]

This bought as Rhapis excelsa

This bought as Rhapis robusta

This bought as Rhapis humilis-sorry for the quality of the picture

 

I add that these three species here grow quite well and no slow
 

[Kris]

Dear Giuseppe,

Rhapis Robusta and R.humilis looks fantastic and R.excela palm i do have it.The Excela is growing in our garden for about 18 to 20 years now but has not grown in height.its hardly 3 feet tall and is clumping like crazy.Is R.excela a dwarf Rhapis ?

Thanks for the visuals.

Love,

Kris.

 

[gyuseppe]

Hello Kris
no Rpasis excela,  is not a dwarf Rhapis 
 

[Pal Meir]

Hello @gyuseppe, are those three Rhapis grown up from seed?

(1) The R excelsa may be correctly labeled, but I need to see a pic of the tips of the leaflets.

(2) The number of leaflets of your R »robusta« does not match any description of this species (Hastings 2003, Henderson 2009, Chinese Forestry Ministry): The blade on your photo has at least 20 leaflets. There are only two spp which have 20 leaflets or more: R multifida and R humilis. I guess your palm is R multifida.

(3) Also your R humilis may be correctly labeled. In this case it would be most interesting if it was grown up from seed or from suckers; the latter is the normal way for this sp.

Hello @Kris, R excelsa can grow up to 4 m in height: http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Rhapis_excelsa

[Kris]

My Rhapis has not grown much...

[Pal Meir]

47 minutes ago, Kris said:

My Rhapis has not grown much...

Maybe it is oppressed by the dominant Arenga?

[Kris]

Dear Pal,

We had planted that Arenga just one year back may be...I still believe my Rhapis is a Dwarf variety. Its growing sideways and not upwards.And it has not flowered or fruited till this day.

Love,

Kris.

[gyuseppe]

Hello Pal

the Rhapis excelsa I bought a small plant in a nursery here about 15 years ago,now is located in the garden and about 1.4 meters high has many suckers

Also the Rhapis humilis I bought a  plant in a nursery in Sicily about 10 years ago, now is located in the pot and about 1.4 meters high has  2 main stems and many suckers
 

of rhapis robusta I have 2 high about 0.80 meters,these were made from seeds, seeds  bought as rhapis robusta

 

I have  also 7 other small plants made from seeds ,seeds bought as humilis, multifida, and another species that I do not remember

[gyuseppe]

some photos of  small plants made from seeds ,seeds bought as humilis, multifida, and another species that I do not remember

[Kris]

Beautiful,the last still Rhapis is my favourite. ..

[Pal Meir]

Here you have some characteristics of R humilis and R multifida (Hastings 2003; Henderson 2009):

Rhapis humilis
(1) 7-20 leaflets
(2) blades not spilt to the base
(3) pointed apices of leaflets
(4) petiole 4 mm wide
(5) ligules persistent
(6) stem with sheaths 1.8-4.0 cm diameter
(7) stem without sheaths 1.5-3 cm diameter
(8) stems to 6 m tall

Rhapis multifida
(1) 14-23 leaflets
(2) blades not spilt to the base
(3) pointed apices of leaflets
(4) petiole … mm wide
(5) ligules sometimes persistent
(6) stem with sheaths … cm diameter
(7) stem without sheaths 1.8-2.5 cm diameter
(8) stems to 2.5 m tall

[gyuseppe]

16 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

 

 

Pal these two do not seem Rhapis humilis / multifida,is so?

[Kris]

Why don't you both visit palmpedia site,where they have lots of visuals...?

http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Category:RHAPIS

Iam surprised none of my Rhapis is seen in those pages,as iam claiming that my Rhapis palm had not grown much in 20 years !

Kris.

[Pal Meir]

1 hour ago, Kris said:

Why don't you both visit palmpedia site,where they have lots of visuals...?

http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Category:RHAPIS

Iam surprised none of my Rhapis is seen in those pages,as iam claiming that my Rhapis palm had not grown much in 20 years !

Kris.

Hello Kris, of course I know all of those sites. But what Palmpedia does is collecting all infos on those palm species, right or wrong. And there are many mislabeled photos, especially in case of Rhapis. The reason is: neither the botanical gardens nor the seed suppliers do in many really know cases what they have.

[Kris]

Dear Pal,

I understand what you say...

Thanks,

Kris.

[Kris]

Here's a video presentation on Rhapis Excelsa,You were telling my Rhapis is Excelsa but the video tells a different story !

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[Pal Meir]

4 minutes ago, Kris said:

Here's a video presentation on Rhapis Excelsa,You were telling my Rhapis is Excelsa but the video tells a different story !

Yes, the video shows a very nice Rhapis multifida!  It is definitely not a R excelsa. (Cf. my thread »Rhapis chaotica«.)

[Kris]

Thanks Pal,

The one seen in that video is what i want to grow..its very beautiful.

Love,

Kris.

[Kris]

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[Pal Meir]

5 minutes ago, Kris said:

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Yes, that video shows actually a R excelsa!

In UK they seem to have some R multifida to sell:

http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/images/thumb/6/6e/RMU_2_zoom.jpg/449px-RMU_2_zoom.jpg

[Kris]

This person has tagged all the Rhapis in this video as R. Excelsa..It means many do not know what they are growing ! 

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[Kris]

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[Kris]

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[Pal Meir]

7 minutes ago, Kris said:

This person has tagged all the Rhapis in this video as R. Excelsa..It means many do not know what they are growing ! 

Many botanical gardens don’t know, too …

[Kris]

Dear Pal,

is this the right way to water indoor palms ? Want all the fertz gets washed away by this method,See this video !

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[Pal Meir]

1 hour ago, Kris said:

Dear Pal,

is this the right way to water indoor palms ? Want all the fertz gets washed away by this method,See this video !

This is one correct way to water Rhapis palms that are potted in peat moss or other fast draining soils. Rhapis palms don’t like wet feet and over-fertilizing.

[ErikSJI]

[Kris]

Thanks Pal.

And Erik what variety of Rhapis is that seen in your still..?

Love,

Kris.

[gyuseppe]

6 hours ago, Kris said:

Thanks Pal.

And Erik what variety of Rhapis is that seen in your still..?

Love,

Kris.

seem all  Rhapis excelsa

[Kris]

Thanks very much Giuseppe. Its seems all palm cultivators have fallen in love with R.Excelsa and are flooding the market with it.

No variety option is given to buyers.And i have few of the R.Excelsa growing at our garden...its very very slow...

Love,

Kris.

 

[Kris]

Dear Friends,

Today I visited a nearby plant nursery,which specialises in indoor plants palms included.

And surprisingly I saw a few Rhapis palms but one caught my attention for its leaf arrangement and its height.its around 7 and half feet tall and the pot is 18inches square size and the price they are asking is 176 U.S Dollars.

Yes yes I have the still of it.And what variety of Rhapis is this ?

[Kris]

And is it worth that price ? Is it R.Robusta,R.Humilis or R.Multifida.

I will be very happy to know if it belongs to any one of the above fav Rhapis. ..

Thanks and love,

Kris.

[Kris]

Here is another one in the same nursery...what variety is this ?

 

 

 

 

 

[Howeadypsis]

Beautiful palms. I'd love room for a Rhapis in my house

[Pal Meir]

On 10.7.2016, 08:57:11, Kris said:

Dear Friends,

Today I visited a nearby plant nursery,which specialises in indoor plants palms included.

And surprisingly I saw a few Rhapis palms but one caught my attention for its leaf arrangement and its height.its around 7 and half feet tall and the pot is 18inches square size and the price they are asking is 176 U.S Dollars.

Yes yes I have the still of it.And what variety of Rhapis is this ?

That one looks to me like R humilis.

The next one is hard to id; it is NOT R excelsa or R humilis; maybe (???) it is the same species as mine  (i.e. R cochinchinensis < laosensis), discussed in my thread »How to make Rhapis … flower«, but it is impossible to give a reliable id. (It doesn’t look very happy …)

On 10.7.2016, 11:29:29, Kris said:

Here is another one in the same nursery...what variety is this ?

 

[WestCoastGal]

So nice to see your photos gyuseppe and Kris, and see these plants in the ground for a change. Kind of funny to see this thread right now as last weekend we stopped at our local palm nursery and tagged a R. excelsa and it was planted yesterday. First new palm we've added in a while. It was a replacement for the area we had Canna intrigue for a few years. We wanted something mature with some height to partially block the view of the neighbor's house.

We like the fact that it's evergreen (unlike the canna) and this variety will hopefully do well for us with our temp highs and lows. Not sure how green it will stay with the partial sun exposure where it's at now though. It's planted under the canopy of one of our mules but the current fronds overhead are pretty old and will be off at some point. It otherwise has some shade from the neighbor's crepe myrtle and later in the afternoon our pergola will cast some shadow. Time will tell. It was recommended that we spray it down with some water maybe once a week in the early morning (assume to keep insects from making a home). It's on a drip.

Here's a few photos from this morning. BTW our nursery has several varieties in stock but we felt this one would do best for us long term.

[cycadjungle]

Mine seems to have a minor element deficiency.

[Pal Meir]

8 hours ago, cycadjungle said:

Mine seems to have a minor element deficiency.

Albinos don’t like (±direct) sun! I would keep them indoors.

[Kris]

Dear Tom,

Your Rhapis palm is fantastic !

Thanks for the visual.

Love,

Kris. 

[Alicehunter2000]

Yes Tom, one day I will show up at your doorstep with money in my pocket. Do you have any with less variegated leaves?

Here is one that I got from Ken, he had it for an IPS auction. ..it is a dwarf with 3 and 4 leafs ....seems pretty tolorant of cold and had no damage during Vortex with only a sheet covering it. It was I think a cultivar from a well know South Florida Rhapis collector (Lady) but can't remember the bacK story on it....maybe I can find that auction thread somewhere.