Trachycarpus selection for 7a turning to 6b

[David_K]

Hello palmers, sorry for any problems, i am new to the Palm Talk. When i got interested into palms, my friend got too and he wants a palm for his garden. We've chosen trachy because they are most hardy and pretty beautiful. I dont really know which one is best. We live in the Czech Republic in the one of warmest climates in here. The zones here are 7a-6b, just something between. I wonder which one type should i get and how big.

The orders are fast growing and tree-type. I thought the Tra takil bageshwar is good but, uno, i dont have palms on garden yet so and i am planning to put outside a washie, not a trachy

Thank you for help and feedback.

[Las Palmas Norte]

Some Bulgarian strains of Trachycarpus reportedly have been exceptionally hardy. In a climate like that, you're inevitably going to have to provide some periodic protection with even the hardiest types.

Cheers, Barrie.

[David_K]

Thank you for your help, the problem is that these Szeged and Bulgaria cultivars arent avaible bigger than seedlings. So i thought, Chamaerops humilis var. Cerifera? This plant is from europe and its much better built for longer winters and a big frosts. The truth is that is smaller but still good.

Thank you for help.

David

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Chamaerops humilis var. Cerifera will not survive zone 7a let alone 6B.  They are at best a 7B palm and show damage at 10F

[buffy]

How about some Sabal minors? You can plant a little grove of them. 

[David_K]

Sabals require a big protection against snow and water, one that was on our forum , didnt survive the winter even with protection. By the way the trachycarpus bageshwar is already in the ground, 2 days after planting it restarted growing another leaf.

[Jungle Jas.]

Quoting  7a-6b isn't that helpful you're 7a will be totally different to 7a in the USA. what are your low temperatures in the winter and how long do they last? Here in parts of the UK we have cold weather as well. The only thing that is bullet proof is Trachycarpus Fortunei. Even that can struggle in an exceptionally bad winter. Sables are hardy but don't grow in the UK as we don't have hot enough summers, what sort of summers do you have?

[David_K]

I am living in a part near one river, the summers are warmer than in UK, if there is a good weather, it is over 30 degrees celsius, also, they are drier than in UK. Our climate is mix of continental and ocean so weather is hardly predictable. The winter is colder than in UK, more frosty and agressive so every palm here needs at least wrapping, but compared to other regions, maybe perfect 4 palm growing. Lowest temp here recorded by people was -14,2 but i dont trust it.

Edited July 12, 2016 by David_K

[Jungle Jas.]

Rhapidophyllium  Hystrix is another palm you could try if you have hot summers.

[David_K]

Yea, but in winter it needs very very dry place. F. e. it died in -15 celsius when isnt covered and covered died in -20 celsius.

[Flow]

No trunking palm will survive longer periods below -15C, not even the Bulgarian Trachy and neither T. takil. I am talking about sub-zero temperatures for days or weeks. You will simply need good protection, maybe even heating cables. Jungle Jas is pretty spot on, the zones are not comparable. Here, the last ten years or so, we have been in 7b or even 8a. Since I planted it in spring 2012, I haven't protected my T. wagnerianus at all. Still, every now and then there comes a really bad cold spell which wipes out every unprotected palm and most of the passively protected ones around here. I have protection ready in case it is needed.

By the way, T. takil and also princeps are similarly hardy as fortunei but grow much slower initially which means you would be able to protect them much longer..
 

[David_K]

These temps are maximally daily, normally in the morning or in the night.

For this trachy, i will build a winter shelter from wood and transparent gardening foil. My home is on the south side and the place for Washingtonia is orientated south so the most warm place. No palm will survive in my country (count only warm places) without protection with heated wrap or shelter.

Also, the Bageshwar isnt placed right, people say that it doesnt belong 2 takil.

Edited July 12, 2016 by David_K

[Jungle Jas.]

Hummmmmm, ever thought of giving up on palms and planting something that will grow in your location!  Stop knocking your head against a brick wall!

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

Ive seen them in southern Connecticut zone 7A and in mid Connecticut 6B near Colchester.