Lytocaryum insigne

[Pal Meir]

And this is my smallest L insigne (N°1408), also just unfolding a new frond (#11 of 12): 

[Pal Meir]

One year ago palm N°1401 looked still like grass (or corn): 

But now it is a real beautiful palm tree with huge fronds: 

[Pal Meir]

And now my 8th L insigne is ready for emigration on Saturday and saying goodbye: 

[Laaz]

Still searching for a seed source for these...

[Pal Meir]

43 minutes ago, Laaz said:

Still searching for a seed source for these...

When my N°1401 will be fruiting next year or so  I’ll send a couple of seeds to you. 

[Mohsen]

2 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

And now my 8th L insigne is ready for emigration on Saturday and saying goodbye: 

Who is the lucky reciever  ?

im not sure what I'm doing wrong none of my seedlings doing well and not growing anymore  

[Pal Meir]

20 minutes ago, Mohsen said:

Who is the lucky reciever  ?

im not sure what I'm doing wrong none of my seedlings doing well and not growing anymore  

Mohsen, 

(1) take a photo of your Lyto seedlings (= the so called hybrids?);

(2) remove one (or all) from the soil;

(3) take a photo of the seedling(s) with bare roots;

(4) take a photo of the removed soil;

(5) protect the bare rooted seedling(s) against drying (in a moist vinyl bag or so);

(6) wait for the diagnosis of Dr Meir. 

[Mohsen]

On 7/28/2017, 12:27:02, Pal Meir said:

Mohsen, 

(1) take a photo of your Lyto seedlings (= the so called hybrids?);

(2) remove one (or all) from the soil;

(3) take a photo of the seedling(s) with bare roots;

(4) take a photo of the removed soil;

(5) protect the bare rooted seedling(s) against drying (in a moist vinyl bag or so);

(6) wait for the diagnosis of Dr Meir. 

 

Sorry Pal, I have been very busy lately...

first picture is the 2 ones look happier but not growing ( or at least I cant tell) :

This one is the twin one :

This one is another one , the 2nd worst after the twins:

 

the soil is 40% Seramis + 60% premium potting mix and I didn't notice any wetness in them...

they are in the shade house ( small green house) outside...could see low to 4-5c but not colder

waiting for the diagnosis Dr Meir  

[Pal Meir]

@Mohsen, at first the good news: Your seedlings seem to be L insigne or a hybrid which has the habit of L insigne; they are definitely not L weddellianum. — What is the size of the plastic pots the seedlings are/were potted in?

And now the diagnosis by Dr Meir: 

(1) The pots are too large; the ideal size would have been 8x8xH9 cm as on the old pics of my seedlings.

(2) The drainage of the soil mix is too slow; if you had used much smaller pots it might have been sufficient. 

(3) One of the twins is dead. 

What to do now: 

(4) Let the soil of the two healthier seedlings get relatively dry before next watering; later you should repot these two also in smaller pots with a much better draining soil mix.

(5) Add to the un-potted soil mix small LECA pebbles (c. 20%).

(6) Look for smaller plastic pots, c. Ø9xH9 cm.

(7) Repot the two seedlings in those small plastic pots using the old soil, mixed carefully with c. 20% LECA.

(8) Water the potted seedlings with lots of water; don’t let them stand in water (no wet feet).

(9) As you have now winter in OZ put ALL the L insigne seedlings inside your house and stand them on a window sill (facing south or protected against too much direct sun). 

(10) Mark the growing point of the leaves with a permanent marker.

(11) Later you have too repot the two healthier (not healthy!) seedlings too in smaller pots, but wait now. 

And good luck!

Dr Meir 

[Pal Meir]

This is the way roots and soil mix should look like (50% Seramis® + 50% fine pine bark + layer of LECA on the bottom):

[Mohsen]

On 8/1/2017, 7:21:54, Pal Meir said:

@Mohsen, at first the good news: Your seedlings seem to be L insigne or a hybrid which has the habit of L insigne; they are definitely not L weddellianum. — What is the size of the plastic pots the seedlings are/were potted in?

And now the diagnosis by Dr Meir: 

(1) The pots are too large; the ideal size would have been 8x8xH9 cm as on the old pics of my seedlings.

(2) The drainage of the soil mix is too slow; if you had used much smaller pots it might have been sufficient. 

(3) One of the twins is dead. 

What to do now: 

(4) Let the soil of the two healthier seedlings get relatively dry before next watering; later you should repot these two also in smaller pots with a much better draining soil mix.

(5) Add to the un-potted soil mix small LECA pebbles (c. 20%).

(6) Look for smaller plastic pots, c. Ø9xH9 cm.

(7) Repot the two seedlings in those small plastic pots using the old soil, mixed carefully with c. 20% LECA.

(8) Water the potted seedlings with lots of water; don’t let them stand in water (no wet feet).

(9) As you have now winter in OZ put ALL the L insigne seedlings inside your house and stand them on a window sill (facing south or protected against too much direct sun). 

(10) Mark the growing point of the leaves with a permanent marker.

(11) Later you have too repot the two healthier (not healthy!) seedlings too in smaller pots, but wait now. 

And good luck!

Dr Meir 

Thanks Pal

I need to find smaller pots and also I need measure Leca I have,

But the soil didn't look wet , could cold be the main reason ? already bring one inside as I dont have room for all at the moment  

 

[Pal Meir]

4 hours ago, Mohsen said:

Thanks Pal

I need to find smaller pots and also I need measure Leca I have,

But the soil didn't look wet , could cold be the main reason ? already bring one inside as I dont have room for all at the moment  

The "premium potting mix" is the problem. So be careful with watering your two healthier seedlings and leave them where and as they are now. — Protect the roots of the two un-potted seedlings against drying out. — If the LECA is too coarse so crush it in smaller pieces.

[Jamesasb]

On 27/07/2017, 15:05:54, Mohsen said:

Who is the lucky reciever  ?

im not sure what I'm doing wrong none of my seedlings doing well and not growing anymore  

That would be me!!!   I'll do a post this weekend with pics :)

[Pal Meir]

A chilly summer night, 13°C / 98%:

[Jamesasb]

On 08/07/2017, 17:38:00, Pal Meir said:

@Jamesasb N°1402 now unfolding its 13th frond (of 14) is waiting for emigration, too:

On 08/07/2017, 17:38:00, Pal Meir said:

@Jamesasb N°1402 now unfolding its 13th frond (of 14) is waiting for emigration, too:

 

On 27/07/2017, 15:05:54, Mohsen said:

 

On 09/07/2017, 10:48:53, Jamesasb said:

On 09/07/2017, 13:48:43, Pal Meir said:

 

Edited August 6, 2017 by Jamesasb
for some reason it wont upload a picture, i'm having problems with the website today for some reason, will attempt again tomorrow

[Jamesasb]

I seem unable to upload pictures, the website just says there was a problem.. any ideas?

 

[Jamesasb]

1402 in its new home, slight discoloration of the edge of the lowest leaf ..

Edited August 13, 2017 by Jamesasb

[Pal Meir]

@Jamesasb It is the 7th leaf, and it will soon look like this 5th leaf of N°1408:

[Jamesasb]

it just concerned me because it started to discolour right after i arrived back..

 

 

[Bananengeknl]

 

[Jamesasb]

On 16/08/2017, 12:06:27, Bananengeknl said:

 

beautiful, how will you protect this for winter and how long has it been in the ground for?

[Pal Meir]

On 16.8.2017, 13:06:27, Bananengeknl said:

 

Very glad to see N°1403 being healthy & happy in NL 

[Pal Meir]

My last two L insigne: The slender N°1408 and the fat N°1401 enjoying the late summers sun on a chilly day. 

[Jamesasb]

1402 now has its first fully pinnate leaf totally open

 

[Pal Meir]

On 17.3.2017, 21:13:13, caixeta said:

Only today I completed my Lytocaryum collection , I won a Lytocaryum insigne from a great friend ,there goes the photos.

@caixeta It looks to me like my N°1401 is now not smaller (or even larger?) than your new acquisition was when you got it; could you post an update of your baby?

And here on the balcony, exposed to fairly strong autumn storms:

[Jamesasb]

I bought mine inside last week and it started growing very quickly again.  

should we expect these to maybe,maybe flower in 2019? also how many  leaves should they be holding?

I ask because it seems 7 is the limit before it aborts the oldest leaf for me. i wonder how to make it hold more leaves?

[Alberto]

One of my palms is forming two spathes.

[Jamesasb]

wow,how big is the palm? have you posted a picture of it before?

[Alberto]

Yes, I posted some pics in a thread "Are this two palms of the same species?" ...or something like that...

[Jamesasb]

i fiound them already yes they are nice, maybe a few more years until our young ones flower

 

[Kai]

Here's my sunburned insigne. It's recovering very well and has grown quite a bit since I took this picture.

I will be extra carefull with selecting a less full sun location for it in my garden in summer. I also plan to repot it into a much wider and heavier clay pot for more stability during windy days.

I will try to make a picture of all 4 of my insignes. 2 of which originated from Pal Meir and the 2 others were sown by myself. It took me very long to find out that these plants didn't like the commonly used organic soil that I used back then and they have been on the edge of dying. Now finally healthy growth has returned but the setback they got is enormous. For comparison, I believe the seeds that I germinated were from the same batch as Pals seeds and if not, their germination dates are not very far apart... Picture coming up...

[Kai]

Here it is...

Quite a difference a setback makes. My small plants have made unhealthy yellowish leaves for a long time after repotting them into the seramis mix. But patience was rewarded and now healthy little leaves start appearing and growth is excellerating. I think I'm finally getting the hang of these insignes.

[Pal Meir]

My remaining two L insigne were a little bit too long outdoors this winter so that N°1401 lost 3 fronds under icy rain and snow … 

[Jamesasb]

oh no was it the weight of the snow that snapped them or the cold that burned them?

[Pal Meir]

1 hour ago, Jamesasb said:

oh no was it the weight of the snow that snapped them or the cold that burned them?

It was the ice cold water which filled the pot for a too long time. I didn’t notice that the rain was blown by strong winds also inside the protected loggia …… 

[Pal Meir]

After a delay of a couple of weeks it is now growing steadily under a 50W halogen lamp, but the tips of the leaflets of all (!) remaining 3½ fronds got wilted. 

[Jamesasb]

how low would you estimate the temperature that it saw? 

 

[Pal Meir]

48 minutes ago, Jamesasb said:

how low would you estimate the temperature that it saw? 

Maybe +2°C to about 0°C, but the problem was the excess of too cold water in the pot. The tips of the leaflets wilted because of root problems, not of low temps.

[Pal Meir]

Happy germination day, N°1408! Today 4 years old:

[Pal Meir]

Spring is coming: 11°C 50%. The first day outdoors this year: