I.D Please,What Phoenix Palm is it ?

[Kris]

Dear Friends,

I desperately want to know what Phoenix palm is this ? Since only after knowing its variety i would be able to send it to the park.As i do not want any doubles being planted there !

So kindly help me in identifying this phoenix palm.

Thanks and love,

Kris.

 

[Kris]

Here's the visuals of that phoenix palm :

 

Thanks and love,

Kris.

 

[gyuseppe]

seems hybrid of roebelenii

[meteorologistpalmguy]

Reclinata x Roebelenii?

[Monòver]

I think canariensis hibrid. It has green leaves and petioles and long spines. Hibrids with reclinata have suckers.

[Howeadypsis]

I saw this on the facebook page! 

[redbeard917]

I'm just gonna throw out roebellenii x sylvestris as a wild guess.

[palmfriend]

I think young Phoenix palms are somehow hard to identify.

I in this case I would say I see some characteristics of a sylvestris (petioles), but the overall

shape has something of a rupicola....to make the chaos perfect 

just my two cents,

best regards

 

[Phoenikakias]

All I can say is that roebelenii hybrids at my garden have all long and thin spines. I am also inclined to take @Monòver's side.

Edited July 29, 2016 by Phoenikakias

[_Keith]

Looks to be something x CIDP, probably robellini

[Kris]

Thanks Friends,

Hope its CIDP x "............" Hybrid ! Only then it will put out a massive trunk.But iam in doubt shall i plant it in the park or not ?

Love,

Kris.

 

[redbeard917]

I can't say whether or not it will have a massive trunk. I personally suspect one of the parents is roebellenii, so probably not. But it looks like an attractive palm. It hasn't begun to sucker yet. That's a good sign. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that it rules out any of the suckering species (reclinata, dactylifera) as parents. I'd plant it for those reasons.

[Josh-O]

Should be a very cool palm when It gets bigger

[Kris]

My thanks to all for your help.And those who had said that it might have some CIDP genes gave me the courage to proceed with the transferring this palm to the park area..So i decided to remove this phoenix baby from its concrete pot and shifted it to a plastic pot,So that it want be to heavy for us to lift it while transporting...

And here are the visuals :

First i tied all the fronds together,chopped off all the dried and short lower fronds,then even trimmed the Sharp spines in the areas where we had to touch while pulling this palm out..BTW we had to wear eye protection and gloves in this work.

 A Close-Up shot !

Now we socked the pot with ample amount of water..

After 5 minutes of waiting,we tilted the pot gently so that we can start with the pulling out process..

 

I thought its going to be a easy pull out,but it was not.Had to rotate the pot from one side to other and wiggle it.i.e had to push the pot back using my legs while applying force to the fronds by hands.

 

But from now on it was easy.

 

Lets see its roots

...

 

[Kris]

Cont..

Now this phoenix baby was lowered into light weight plastic pot.

 

Now we refilled all the root gaps with its own soil,that had scattered during this pull out operation.

This palm is ready to go to its new home where most of its friends have already gone...they all grew together either raised from seeds or as young saplings.Now they have come to a stage where they cannot be contained in small pots for ever.

 

And if you have noticed the potting soil in which most of my palms have grown are just washed river sand.Once i get permission to bring this palm to the park,i will update with visuals of that planting operation.

Lots of love,

Kris.

 

[palmfriend]

Kris,

thank you for the update - and I hope you get permission to plant it out in the park.

I would love to know how this palm will look like when grown up.

best regards

 

 

[DoomsDave]

Kris!

Keep us apprized on your Phoenix whatever it turns out to be.

Sometimes they're a mystery till they get large.

I'm with Konstantin and Mohsen; looks a lot like a CIDP hybrid, that's a bit stretched from being in the shade (or so it appears). But, it also looks like it has some rupicola in it, especially since "rupies" are native to India. (Rupees, too. )

I'm hunting for the elusive wild park to plant some of my palms in. (Land is so expensive here in California.)

[Kris]

Dear Lars and Dear Dave,

Thanks and will keep you informed with updates !

Love,

Kris.

 

 

[Kris]

This phoenix palm has been sent to the park : The Eagle has landed ! 

All updates of this palm can be seen in the thread link given below :

And my sincere thanks to all my friends who had interacted in this thread.

Lots of love to you,

Kris.

 

[Kris]

Here is a still of CIDP's which belongs to our forum member Pal Meir .These Cidp looks more like the palm that is in discussion above !

Here's a visual of that palm..

Thanks and Love,

Kris.

 

[Phoenikakias]

Yours is more stretched by far. No big similar it to my eyes.

[Kris]

Okay.

I will update this page after one year.Since now the palm is planted in a full sunlight area of the park.Unlike before it was under the shade of a tree in our house.

Thanks and love,

Kris.