Where To Buy Ceroxylon quindiuense?

[PalmTreeDude]

Does anyone know where I could buy a Ceroxylon quindiuense? Also do you know if these palms can live in 9b? Thank you for reading!

[Pedro 65]

6 hours ago, PalmTreeDude said:

Does anyone know where I could buy a Ceroxylon quindiuense? Also do you know if these palms can live in 9b? Thank you for reading!

RPS has Fresh New Seed of Ceroxylon Q, last batch I got 100% germination ( 100 out of 100) They wouldnt grow in Florida, whatever San Fransisco climate is , thats where they can grow in mainland USA.     Pete

[Sir Oxylon]

I second that. Ceroxylon are very easy to germinate. Get some from RPS. Worth a shot for you in a protected site.

[PalmatierMeg]

Ceroxylon is not a genus I would recommend for FL. They are cloud forest palms with a narrow temperature tolerance and a requirement for very cool but not freezing nights. San Francisco is probably the only place in the US where they have a chance to thrive. FL's hot summer days and sweltering nights will melt this palm. Still, I don't tell people how to spend their money or which palms to experiment on. Give them a shot, then report your results to us. When I was a newbie, I hoped if I cared enough, tinkered enough and experimented enough, I would be the one person who could get an impossible palm to grow in FL. I had to learn the hard way.

A few years ago, a FL grower germinated a mess of Dictyocaryum lamarckium seeds and peddled the bifid seedlings at plant sales all over SFL for astronomical $$. When he dangled one in front of me, I declined, then remarked loudly the species was hopeless here. He glared daggers at me. But he hasn't offered them since.

[Jim in Los Altos]

I'm with Meg here. They thrive here in the cooler parts of the Bay Area but are slow growers even here. I have a healthy twelve year old that's perhaps just seven feet tall with no sign of trunk yet. It's healthy, beautiful, deep green, and grows all year, just very slowly. My C. Alpinum, however, is half the age and bigger than the quindiuense. I'm not sure any Ceroxylon species will like long stretches of hot days and nights but I'll never tell anyone not to try. Get several and the strongest might make it. 

[Mandrew968]

On 9/3/2016, 10:48:58, PalmatierMeg said:

 

A few years ago, a FL grower germinated a mess of Dictyocaryum lamarckium seeds and peddled the bifid seedlings at plant sales all over SFL for astronomical $$. When he dangled one in front of me, I declined, then remarked loudly the species was hopeless here. He glared daggers at me. But he hasn't offered them since.

Harsh Meg. Never heard you get negative with anyone before... Just for your information, I have seen one of those exact palms growing in a local botanical garden, in the ground. I also know that the seller warned of this palm being difficult to impossible for some. No false advertising and i personally am grateful for some growers offering the palms everyone else says will NOT grow. Without them, we would all be growing queens 

[PalmatierMeg]

Harsh Meg. Never heard you get negative with anyone before... Just for your information, I have seen one of those exact palms growing in a local botanical garden, in the ground. I also know that the seller warned of this palm being difficult to impossible for some. No false advertising and i personally am grateful for some growers offering the palms everyone else says will NOT grow. Without them, we would all be growing queens 

 

Sorry you think so. No provisos or qualifications were given to me and no info provided about the seedlings except the requisite blue crownshaft photo. Just because his buyers that day lived in SWFL not SFL didn't make them less worthy of such critical info. Fortunately, I'm no longer seduced by that iconic picture. I've bought from this guy before and may do so in the future. He has good, rare stuff. Maybe he was having a bad day but he exhibited weary annoyance toward his potential customers. He had a chance to educate me about how wrong I was/am about this species - as you are doing. If he had I might have changed my tune and sprung for one of those precious darlings. Hope springs eternal and all that jazz.

Please post photos of the Dictyocaryum in that garden. How old are they? Are they mature? Seeding? Growing outdoors? Indoors? What, if any, special care gets them through our summers from hell? Could a home grower duplicate those conditions? Do you recommend it? Thanks.

[Mandrew968]

People have bad days all the time--I know my friend has had many days I wouldn't want. You must not have come during one of his sales, or you would have encountered me. He has me at those sales so I can answer all the technical growing questions. I have gotten so many rare and amazing palms from this gentleman and recieved nothing but generosity from him and his lovely wife. I went to them when I needed a blue rigida that I could find NOWHERE else. I can think of many palms he has changed the book on, for us in South Florida, including the Lipstick palm; to which my father has one in the ground--many say that will not grow... 

As for the Dictyocaryum, the book has not been written yet on them. I am in no position to grow one, but as long as you are able to keep it under 90F and provide ample moisture, then I think they should be ok. I too was sceptical before I saw the one I saw...

[palmfriend]

Hello there,

I got my seeds from rps, absolute no challenge to get them germinated and I have two of them

outside in pots, the rest (later germinated) I am keeping inside (afraid of the sun) but when fall/winter

arrives they will go outside as well. (average lows in winter 18C/65F, if no wind from the north 24C/75F-

happens very often, deepest low by strong northern winds - usually max half day - 10C/50F)

The ones outside are kept in shadow, they are taking their time but no real problems - there are now more

than a year old.

Here there are:

best regards