Identification?

[Sandy Loam]

PHOTO 1:  Can anyone identify this crownshaft palm? All of the photos that I am about to post were taken in Orlando, Florida, USA in the winter of 2016.  They may all be photos of the same species.

[Fusca]

Hi Sandy,

I don't see any photo attached...

[doranakandawatta]

22 hours ago, Fusca said:

Hi Sandy,

I don't see any photo attached...

Hi Sandy, did you choose files in order to attach your photo? it seems the photo left...

[Sandy Loam]

My apologies -- The photos did not upload.  I will try again now.  The next four photos should contains several crownshaft palms.  What are these palms?  They all appear to be the same species of crownshaft palm, but I don't know what they are. 

Many thanks! 

[Sandy Loam]

Number 2

[Sandy Loam]

Number 3

[Sandy Loam]

Number 4 is now attached. This is the last photo. 

Please ignore all palms except for the crownshaft palms.  That is the only tree I am seeking identification for.

Many thanks.

[doranakandawatta]

I can be wrong, I would say Archontophoenix alexandrae ... 

Nice pics BTW.

[tim_brissy_13]

Photo 3 and 4 I concur - A alexandrae. Photo 1 and 2 I'm not certain but my impression was Chambeyronia macrocarpa; darker crownshaft, thicker leaflets and green underside of fronds.

[Sandy Loam]

So photo 1 and photo 2 may not be the same crownshaft palm as photo 3 and photo 4? Thank you!

Is it just me, or aren't these "generic" crownshaft palms quite difficult to tell apart?  I mean archontophoenix, veitchia montgomeriana, etc.  Obviously, there are many crownshaft palms which look quite distinctive, but then there are several which I can hardly tell apart. 

If anyone else has additional identification comments, I would welcome them. Thank you.

 

 

 

[RedRabbit]

1 & 2: Ptychosperma elegans

3 & 4: Archontophoenix alexandrae

Those are rare palms for Orlando, where were these pictures taken?

Edited October 5, 2016 by RedRabbit

[Sandy Loam]

Photos 1 and 2 really don't look like Ptychosperma Elegans to me.  They don't have the skinny trunk and the shorter fronds with those ptychosperma wide leaflets.  Having said this, I defer to the experts out there. (I am no expert) 

These photos were taken last winter at one of the Orlando theme parks, but I am ashamed to say where.  I can PM you the particulars.

There are lots of crownshaft palms all over Orlando, but about half of them seem to be foxtails (wodyetia bifurcata).  The ones in the photos are less common indeed.

[Pando]

Here's the photo 1, slightly enhanced and zoomed in showing better details. Looks like it has irregular trunk rings., close together

 

[Missi]

9 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

These photos were taken last winter at one of the Orlando theme parks, but I am ashamed to say where.  I can PM you the particulars.

Don't you dare feel ashamed! Plenty of adults still enjoy theme parks, even if they're not there with their kids/grandkids! Age is just a number!

[Sandy Loam]

Actually, I was there with kids.

It's the theme park which many people have been boycotting for the past couple of years due to allegations of mistreatment to marine life.

 

[Eric in Orlando]

1 & 2 are Chambeyronia macrocarpa. I recognize where they are.

The others are Archontophoenix alexandrae.

 

[Missi]

23 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

Actually, I was there with kids.

It's the theme park which many people have been boycotting for the past couple of years due to allegations of mistreatment to marine life.

 

Bah, that's all BS propaganda. They haven't taken an orca from the wild for over 30 years. They do amazing things for conservation and rescue/rehabilitation of so many wild animals that are then returned to the wild healthy. If some animals need to live there to be animal ambassadors - for kids to see up close and personal and bond with and begin to want to do something to better the world as well as conservation - so be it! I have so much respect for that theme park that is much, much more than a mere theme park!