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Identify these seedlings?

Missi

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Regarding the larger seedlings in this pic, I collected most of these a couple years ago but I have no idea what they are. I might have grabbed them from under some Attalea specimens. Are these Attalea seedlings? Curious, also looks like they're getting too much sun, maybe, so I'd like to know the i.d. so I can know their growing preferences. 

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Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

Missi Grand Master

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I found this picture when searching Google for Attalea seedling pics:

Attalea dubia -

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Missi Grand Master

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Anybody? 

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Missi Grand Master

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Re-potted these guys up a couple weeks ago. Still have NO clue what they are. Bumping this post from last year up to see is anyone else might have a guess? ^_^

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Could the larger ones be a archontophoenix of some sort?

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Missi Grand Master

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20 hours ago, Palmə häl′ik said:

Could the larger ones be a archontophoenix of some sort?

So I looked at the list of Archontophoenix and the, err, plots where they are located at the "place" I plucked these from when they were wee seedlings, and there are no Archontophoenix in those plots, if I'm remembering the locations correctly. I want to SWEAR I got a few of them from under a large Attalea sp., but I can't remember for 100% certain. <_<

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Missi Grand Master

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Any why would Attalea seedlings be sensitive to full sun?!

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Missi Grand Master

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Photo from this morning. More growth on these guys (hello pinnate leaves) and definitely happier and greener in the shade.

Any more guesses?

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On 7/31/2017, 4:40:08, Palmə häl′ik said:

Could the larger ones be a archontophoenix of some sort?

That was my first thought too.  A. cohune and Arch. tuckeri.  

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Missi Grand Master

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On 7/31/2017, 5:40:08, Palmə häl′ik said:

Could the larger ones be a archontophoenix of some sort?

 

21 hours ago, topwater said:

That was my first thought too. 

Ick, I certainly hope not! LOL I don't need any Archontophoenix!

 

20 hours ago, carver said:

Elaeis quineensis?

They do look very similar to photos of younger Elaeis guineensis seedlings I found on Google!

 

Keep those guesses coming!

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Missi Grand Master

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21 hours ago, topwater said:

 A. cohune and Arch. tuckeri.  

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Hmm these palms are older/much larger that mine are currently.

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Missi Grand Master

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Bump :interesting:

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Chambeyronia macrocarpa

Missi Grand Master

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2 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Chambeyronia macrocarpa

I WISH! :P

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On Thu Aug 10 2017 21:38:53 GMT+0100, carver said:

Elaeis quineensis?

For sure not!

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On Fri Oct 14 2016 12:01:13 GMT+0100, Kai said:

These are no Attalea seedlings they will not get bifid like that. Looks like Hyophorbe to me but that's just gambling.

Here is my Hyophorbe Lagenicaulis.  Apart from the color the shape is pretty similar. Can barely a hyophorbe?!

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1 hour ago, Jeff_Cabinda said:

Here is my Hyophorbe Lagenicaulis.  Apart from the color the shape is pretty similar. Can barely a hyophorbe?!

Nope. I've grown many H. langenicaulis seedlings and not similar at all.

Why do you say for sure not Elaeis guineensis? Just curious!

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On 10.8.2017, 20:37:11, Missi said:

Photo from this morning. More growth on these guys (hello pinnate leaves) and definitely happier and greener in the shade.

Any more guesses?

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Reminds me a little of my Satakentia seedlings:

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Missi Grand Master

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On 8/19/2017, 2:09:43, Pal Meir said:

Reminds me a little of my Satakentia seedlings:

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Oh! I see the similarities, and that would explain why they hate the full-sun! Hmm. Time will tell...

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Since we still don't have an id on them, here's an update! A cringe-worthy update! Lol I got antsy last November and planted two of them (I'll be killing back more grass). They look like hell because they were outside in pots during Irma and now have been through several frosts this winter. OY! But they're coming back around! I'm still thinking Attalea because I'm almost sure I snagged these from under a huge Attalea at a certain garden, but I'm not 100% sure. What do you guys think?

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They're Elaeis guineensis. I thought that immediately when seeing the first post, and your update on the cold damage makes me sure. You'll start to notice some poky spine parts at the base of the petioles at around this age. 

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Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

Missi Grand Master

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11 hours ago, Zeeth said:

They're Elaeis guineensis. I thought that immediately when seeing the first post, and your update on the cold damage makes me sure. You'll start to notice some poky spine parts at the base of the petioles at around this age. 

Oh bummer! I was really hoping they were Attalea species. Thanks for the i.d.!

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