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Cindy Adair

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First a photo as all of us here like them! Dictyocaryum lamarckianum. I promise more photos later.

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So for some light reading with breakfast I opened up my Genera Palmarum, 2008. Well, not really. I just began by wanting to look at Wettinia photos, but then got interested in their relatives, Socratea, Dictyocaryum, Iriartea,and Iriartella.

I read on page 133 about how the famous authors of this book, including Dr. John Dransfield (who posted about Tahina on Palm Talk recently) met for one week in June 2004 at Cornell University in Ithaca, NY, USA to discuss palm classification. It was fun to think of this meeting while looking at the tables full of Latin names. 

Although I did take two years of Latin, it was in high school and we didn't spend much time on pronunciation, so good thing I am writing rather than talking now.

I read that in the palm family Arecaceae there are 5 subfamilies one of which is the Arecoideae. And within the Arecoideae subfamily there are 13 tribes (and 10 unplaced genera).

One of the tribes is called Iriarteeae. So I learned a little and it wasn't hard compared to organic chemistry or calculus. And I had an excuse to walk around my farm and photograph all the members of the tribe Iriarteea! 

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This Dictyocaryum was planted from a four inch pot size in 2015.

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I chose more sun on the basis of PT recommendations and the fact that my other one in the ground longer grows very slowly. This was is a speed demon by comparison but Dean and Pete and others put mine to shame. I suspect they actually might water and fertilize theirs while mine just gets my admiration.

Here is the one planted tiny in 2010.

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Some of you have asked to see the surroundings as well as each palm so I have tried to do so with this group.

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Stay tuned for more when I have data and time. Please add any of your photos of this tribe! Thanks.

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Here are some Socrateas. First two little Socratea salarzarii trees. These looked about like blades of grass when I stuck them in the ground in June of 2012.

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Another photo of the surroundings. In this area the PVC pipes without orange flagging tape are to mark the switchback trail and provide a hand hold in this steep area. Lots easier in the dry season!

 

This is Socratea rostrata below, same area and also planted tiny June 2012.

 

 

 

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Moving on to another area not far, but with a little more sun, wetter and flatter land too. Wettinia aequalis from August 2013.

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And nearby my last Wettinia, W. hirsuta planted 4/09.

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Here are my two Iriarteas, only one species, I. deltoidea in this genus making it called monotypic. I like this word (one type) as it is easy to spell, pronounce and understand!

The first planted 8/11 as a seedling is in lots of shade.

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Finally the larger one, planted earlier but also as a very small tree, here is the Iriartea I can see in front of me overtime I type at home.

 

 

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I will try yet again to get decent photos of the tall Socratea exorrhiza that was here long before I set foot in PR to add here.

And I would love to see Iriartella too and lots more in the Iriarteeae tribe, and some day head to see them all in their native lands. 

Thanks so much.

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They all look very happy, Cindy! I'm guessing you have more or less a perfect environment for them! :)

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Well, Cindy, you read your Palm tome for breakfast and I read your tutorial and looked at your great photos for mine!  Thanks so much for taking the time to post this.  Your palms are gorgeous and I learned so much!  Wish I could grow those here and that I had as much land to play with.  Thanks again!

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Good to hear from you Andrew and Bo and you too Anna!

Thanks, it is beautiful here.

Small downside is the need for a new set of tires (on a car bought new two years ago) where I am waiting for installation right now.

 Still with very minimal utility costs I am still ahead!

Good thing for free wi fi and PT access on my smartphone to pass the time.

Cindy Adair

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Great palms Cindy!

One thing that surprised me about Socratea salazarii is that it made it through a bad storm this year on only a few stilts, where a couple of other palms fell.

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Lookn Great Cindy :greenthumb: I notice yr  D/caryum with "covered " stilt roots is much better looking than  yr past posts , Id do the same to the Rostrata and Wettinia's for chunkier  growth  Love your Iriartea :wub: , a great size to let the stilts reveal themselves IMHO.

 

Happy New Year Pete 

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5 hours ago, Pedro 65 said:

Lookn Great Cindy :greenthumb: I notice yr  D/caryum with "covered " stilt roots is much better looking than  yr past posts , Id do the same to the Rostrata and Wettinia's for chunkier  growth  Love your Iriartea :wub: , a great size to let the stilts reveal themselves IMHO.

 

Happy New Year Pete 

Pete, do you recommend covering the stilt roots of Iriartea? Mine is small, but I've actually been doing the opposite - trying to make sure at least some of them are exposed and not covered by mulch. I was afraid they'd rot. Am I doing it wrong?

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Iriartea certainly likes shade when young Ive found...the whole group of these palms arent the easiest things to culture in my world. Just cant dry out. Pete...any losses from this horrible dry we are experiencing but rain is forecast today and all week

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Cindy, glad to see your Iriarteeae are doing well and will be stunning in just a few years. 

I've been meaning to respond to this thread for awhile and am finally getting around to posting some photos from the garden.

First of all, I'm a BIG fan of Central and South American palms as most do spectacularly well here in Hawaii. They should do the same

in Puerto Rico. 

Tim

 

First a couple of shots of a juvenile Iriartea deltoidea and a Socratea exorrhiza. The Socratea is from an errant seed from my large one that got taken out by a tropical storm a few years back. 

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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Here's a shot of the trunk/crown shaft of a young Wettinia hirsuita. 

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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The Iriartea and my other Wettinia have gotten so tall that the best example of the mature leaves are of the fallen fronds.

The first is the Iriartea and the second the Wettinia. 

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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Here's a shot of the Iriartea, the two Wettinia's and the giant thing between them is a New Caledonian tree fern. 

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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The last shot is of the three of four Dictyocarium lamarckianum in the back garden. They were fast to take off, but have since slowed down. I think they need a bit

more sun. Can't do much about the warm temps, but they love all the rainfall. 

I also have a small Iriartella armata that's finally starting to show some mojo, but is still relatively small. 

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Tim, thanks so much for the after pictures I hope my befores will eventually match!

Fantastic as always. 

Someday I do need to get back to HI, as when I last visited more than a decade ago for a meeting I had never planted a single palm nor set foot in Puerto Rico.

I still played hooky one day and visited two botanical gardens on the Big island...

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On 12/26/2016, 10:28:02, Cindy Adair said:

This Dictyocaryum was planted from a four inch pot size in 2015.

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I chose more sun on the basis of PT recommendations and the fact that my other one in the ground longer grows very slowly. This was is a speed demon by comparison but Dean and Pete and others put mine to shame. I suspect they actually might water and fertilize theirs while mine just gets my admiration.

Here is the one planted tiny in 2010.

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Some of you have asked to see the surroundings as well as each palm so I have tried to do so with this group.

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Stay tuned for more when I have data and time. Please add any of your photos of this tribe! Thanks.

I want 5 of this. Nice, Cindy.

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If I could I would have more too! 

7 hours ago, foxtail said:

I want 5 of this. Nice, Cindy.

 

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