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Kim

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1-gal. nursery pot contains 5 seedlings.  For some reason I had it in my head that these were some kind of Chamaedorea.  Recently I looked at the tag stuffed in the pot and much to my surprise noted they are actually Syagrus botryophora.  And starting to get pretty crowded in that little pot, though they still have those sweet little feathery Chamaedorea-like leaves.

Question -- will they resent being divided and immediately go into a death spiral?  Or can they handle some man-handling? (or in this case, woman-handling)

I have no idea what I will do with them, but they do need to be separated.

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Kim

I've separated many plants as you describe.

if they are S botryophyra or other Syagrus you should be able to separate them.

maybe a picture?

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Kim Grand Master

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Photos, as requested...DSC_0006.thumb.jpg.90f25041ff0a29713f6b9

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Those look like Chamadoreas of some type.

Most separate easily; gently tug them apart, pot them in individual pots and keep moist and out of the sun and wind till they root in, which (usually) takes about a couple months.

 

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TexasColdHardyPalms Grand Master

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Washing all soil from the roots with a water hose will make it much easier to seperate and will minimize root damage. 

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Kim Grand Master

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The Jungle Music tag is clearly legible: Syagrus botryophora. Pretty sure they came from a PSSC banquet 2-3 years ago. The Chamaedorea I had in my mind was glaucifolia -- think they bit the dust when I was traveling some time ago. :( These must be tougher palms.  I will follow the advice to wash off the roots and replant. Keep my fingers crossed...

 

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

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Most botryophora at that size have enormous entire leaves. I think the wrong tag ended up in the pot. Looks like Chamaedoreas to me.

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

peachy Grand Master

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They should separate without a problem but don't forget to give them a good dose of seaweed liquid once they are repotted.

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I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

Gonzer Grand Master

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Leaf bases all wrong for Syagrus Kim. Definitely Chamaedorea. (glaucifolia)

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Kim Grand Master

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Thanks, everyone! So they are what I previously thought they were before looking at the tag. :rolleyes: Too funny.  I will check the back side of the tag, maybe the name is hand-written there. This is good news -- I prefer the Chamaedorea for my tiny garden.  I take it they should still be separated, even though this is a slender palm.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Kim said:

Thanks, everyone! So they are what I previously thought they were before looking at the tag. :rolleyes: Too funny.  I will check the back side of the tag, maybe the name is hand-written there. This is good news -- I prefer the Chamaedorea for my tiny garden.  I take it they should still be separated, even though this is a slender palm.

You could just plant them that way. I did, and they look like a bunch of skinny palms stuffed into a pot and planted. Separated, they can be planted about 6" (15 cm) apart and make sort of a gauzy curtain of palm leaves on slender graceful trunks, like something out of one of those Asian prints, except in real life.

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Probably 4 years ago I got a container just like this from Jungle Music. It was a community pot just like yours in a group of many many plants of the same species and about the same age. Mine all were C. glaucifolia so it is very possible you have some youngsters from that same batch. Too bad I was hoping for plumosa but they are still nice. They separated nicely. Enjoy your plants!

Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

Monòver Grand Master

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This is my young Syagrus botriophora.

Of course, yours are Chamaedorea.

 

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Kim Grand Master

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Nice looking palm, Monóver!

I thought you all would appreciate this...

Tag, side 1

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Tag, side 2  :lol:

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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