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LICUALA ELEGANS in Phitsanulok

Antoni Uni

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doranakandawatta Grand Master

doranakandawatta

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I can't remember but Licuala elegans is not the actual botanic name of the species, is this Licuala peltata 'Sumawongii'? 

Anyway, very beautiful picture , thanks.

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:greenthumb:

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Tropicgardener Mentor

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1 hour ago, doranakandawatta said:

I can't remember but Licuala elegans is not the actual botanic name of the species, is this Licuala peltata 'Sumawongii'? 

Anyway, very beautiful picture , thanks.

Yes that is right but here in Australia it is always sold as Licuala elegans....... When you mention L. peltata 'Sumawongii' many people just have no idea as to what you are talking about.

 

 

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Andrew,
Airlie Beach, Whitsundays

Tropical Queensland

doranakandawatta Grand Master

doranakandawatta

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47 minutes ago, Tropicgardener said:

Yes that is right but here in Australia it is always sold as Licuala elegans....... When you mention L. peltata 'Sumawongii' many people just have no idea as to what you are talking about.

 

 

it's why Palmtalk forum can help, I was not sure... and IPS gives scientific basis.

This species deserves the name "elegant"
I planted a group in Doranakanda gardens, looking forwrard to seeing them growing.

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Philippe

 

Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

Antoni Uni Enthusiast

Antoni Uni

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5 hours ago, doranakandawatta said:

I can't remember but Licuala elegans is not the actual botanic name of the species, is this Licuala peltata 'Sumawongii'? 

Anyway, very beautiful picture , thanks.

Thanks! Ouch, a lot of different species! Licuala peltata 'Sumawongii'? Could be!

 

Hammer Grand Master

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Gorgeous, perfectly grown specimen. Wow!

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Palm Tree Jim Grand Master

Palm Tree Jim

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What Hammer said!

TexasColdHardyPalms Grand Master

TexasColdHardyPalms

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Extremely attractive.

Palmarum Grand Master

Palmarum

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Very nice specimen, it is always nice to see species growing well in their country of origin.

Andrew is correct, the name is Licuala peltata var. sumawongii. It has become one of the most popular Licuala species here in S. Florida, not just for its appearance and faster rate of growth, but also for its cold tolerance.

The naming confusion with L. elegans has been ongoing for a long time. True L. elegans is native to Sumatra and hasn't been seen much since it was described and named in 1838.

Ryan

South Florida

Jeff Searle Grand Master

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18 hours ago, Tropicgardener said:

Yes that is right but here in Australia it is always sold as Licuala elegans....... When you mention L. peltata 'Sumawongii' many people just have no idea as to what you are talking about.

 

 

Well, it's never too late to correct people.

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" Licuala: approximately 150 species are recognized"  :o

Hammer Grand Master

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5 hours ago, Palmarum said:

Very nice specimen, it is always nice to see species growing well in their country of origin.

Andrew is correct, the name is Licuala peltata var. sumawongii. It has become one of the most popular Licuala species here in S. Florida, not just for its appearance and faster rate of growth, but also for its cold tolerance.

The naming confusion with L. elegans has been ongoing for a long time. True L. elegans is native to Sumatra and hasn't been seen much since it was described and named in 1838.

Ryan

Ryan, do you know of any photos of the true L. elegans?

Palmarum Grand Master

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1 minute ago, Hammer said:

Ryan, do you know of any photos of the true L. elegans?

Not that I have seen. There is an old debate that when the palm was described by Blume in his compendium Rumphia, that certain parts of the description were lacking details and no herbarium specimens were collected. It might have been a 'lightly' described species, and there hasn't been much effort to find the source palm again.

Ryan

South Florida

Hammer Grand Master

Hammer

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2 hours ago, Palmarum said:

Not that I have seen. There is an old debate that when the palm was described by Blume in his compendium Rumphia, that certain parts of the description were lacking details and no herbarium specimens were collected. It might have been a 'lightly' described species, and there hasn't been much effort to find the source palm again.

Ryan

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11 hours ago, Jeff Searle said:

Well, it's never too late to correct people.

Problem is Jeff that it is mostly nurseries doing it and they won't listen.

Andrew,
Airlie Beach, Whitsundays

Tropical Queensland

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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15 hours ago, Tropicgardener said:

Problem is Jeff that it is mostly nurseries doing it and they won't listen.

No, I understand. Pretty much the same any where you go.

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On 4/2/2017, 12:24:09, Tropicgardener said:

Yes that is right but here in Australia it is always sold as Licuala elegans....... When you mention L. peltata 'Sumawongii' many people just have no idea as to what you are talking about.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licuala

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