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Palm identification, Dypsis sp ?

dwimss

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dwimss Community Regular

dwimss

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Hi, 

I got a new palm but i dont know which sp is it maybe a dypsis not sure .... Also I would like to know how cold tolerant is it ?

Could anyone help ?

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Thanks.

Matt in OC Grand Master

Matt in OC

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Pembana?

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Looks like a New Cal of some type.

 

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dwimss Community Regular

dwimss

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Thks but It doesn't look like a pembana!

Any other ideas, suggestions ...?

knell Mentor

knell

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Reminds me of my young Ravenea hildebrandtii, especially the way the leaflets turn up towards the base of the petiole.

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Alan_Tampa Mentor

Alan_Tampa

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D. cabadae

Tampa, Florida

Zone - 10a

Oside92054 Apprentice

Oside92054

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Second for Cabadae

doranakandawatta Grand Master

doranakandawatta

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I am no sure it's a Dypsis, can you notice a heel? 

Here is a Dypsis cabadae:

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Philippe

 

Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Dictyosperma?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Heterospathe glauca?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

doranakandawatta Grand Master

doranakandawatta

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The details of the petioles would invite me to say : Rhopaloblaste augusta ...

 

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Philippe

 

Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

pigafetta Collaborator

pigafetta

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On 16/06/2017, 1:37:58, DoomsDave said:

Looks like a New Cal of some type.

 

agree

Kennybenjamin Veteran

Kennybenjamin

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5 hours ago, LJG said:

Dictyosperma?

Would be my guess also

Matt in SD Veteran

Matt in SD

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I'm with Bill... Heterospathe barfodii (glauca)

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

Josh-O Grand Master

Josh-O

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I agree..

 

its a palm tree for sure :lol:

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

Palm Tree Jim Grand Master

Palm Tree Jim

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30 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

I agree..

 

its a palm tree for sure :lol:

HA HA......you are funny!

 

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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7 hours ago, Matt in SD said:

I'm with Bill... Heterospathe barfodii (glauca)

I like having Matt in my camp...lol :)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Mandrew968 Grand Master

Mandrew968

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Len has the best guess so far. Definitely not a cabadae or pembana. Nor is it oliviformis...

LJG Grand Master

LJG

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13 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

Heterospathe glauca?

Nope. Wrong leaflet attachment angles plus HG is powdery white, like Clinostigma. This plant has indument (or whatever it is called). 

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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I think Dictyosperma too. The white flecks going all the way up the petiole is something I've always noticed on this palm. The tightly held leaflets as well in a V plane. 

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

dwimss Community Regular

dwimss

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11 hours ago, quaman58 said:

I think Dictyosperma too. The white flecks going all the way up the petiole is something I've always noticed on this palm. The tightly held leaflets as well in a V plane. 

I think you're right, it looks more like a Dictyosperma album var rubrum, hope it will survive during the winters in my yard.

Here a picture i found, same look...  

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quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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It grows here in coastal southern california (the rubrum form). It seems a bit hardier to cold than the regular form. If you get near freezing at times, you'd best give it a bit of protection. They love water as well.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Maybe my giant Dictyosperma is too far away for me to get a closer look...

 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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1 hour ago, BS Man about Palms said:

Maybe my giant Dictyosperma is too far away for me to get a closer look...

 

I missed that when I was there Bill. Which form is it? I saw at least one at Greg Hamman's last month, with seeds & all. My guess is that it was rubrum.  I've noticed the regular form gets a much more swollen crownshaft.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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It is in a 30 gal tub... IIRC it's supposed to be the conjugatum-album.. Once I saw the conjugatum in Costa Rica... WOW

 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Steve Mac Grand Master

Steve Mac

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I think that what we have ascertained here, is that a lot of palms are almost impossible to identify visually until they have reached a mature size.

Keep us updated on it's progress.

(Sorry that I am no help)

Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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9 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

It is in a 30 gal tub... IIRC it's supposed to be the conjugatum-album.. Once I saw the conjugatum in Costa Rica... WOW

 

Do you know whether the "conjugatum" & the "furfuraceam" are the same palm?

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

DCA_Palm_Fan Mentor

DCA_Palm_Fan

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On 6/19/2017, 1:45:10, gtsteve said:

I think that what we have ascertained here, is that a lot of palms are almost impossible to identify visually until they have reached a mature size.

Keep us updated on it's progress.

(Sorry that I am no help)

I have to agree with that.  There are a lot.  But there are a lot that are also very distinctive at a very young age too.  Just some are harder than others. That said, at first glance my first thought was Dictyosperma. 

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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On 6/19/2017, 6:41:49, quaman58 said:

Do you know whether the "conjugatum" & the "furfuraceam" are the same palm?

I can't remember...need to consult Dr. Google.. :)

 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Kim Grand Master

Kim

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On 6/19/2017, 6:41:49, quaman58 said:

Do you know whether the "conjugatum" & the "furfuraceam" are the same palm?

I find it very confusing. Floribunda sells "furfuraceum" but on Kew World Checklist, that is a synonym for D. album v. album.  Not what I'd have guessed.  You can see my young D. "furfuraceum" looking very "conjugatum" in a photo I posted in this thread.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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