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From this 3 palms , specially the two at the sides show some deficiencies on the older leaves. I gave them all a good amount of well decomposed manure , potassium and magnesium salts also. 

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Thanks for sharing!

there are differences between them??, about shape??

trunks looks a bit different...

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Alberto, are these the same palms you posted in 2012?

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Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 108°, Lo 72°

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Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014

formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego

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Great ones Albert and if the picture from 2012 are the same the growth rate is amazing as well!

Southwest

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3 hours ago, Tom in Tucson said:

Alberto, are these the same palms you posted in 2012?

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Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ

Hi 108°, Lo 72°

Yes. This are them .Originally I planted 5 of these at this place ,so l am not sure if the one that appears at left was transplanted .

 

 

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Posted

Wow. They went from no trunk in 2012 to enough trunk to stand underneath.  Is the consensus that this hybrid will become quite tall over time (like Parajubaea Cocoides) or remain somewhat stout (like Butia Odorata)? 

Very nice!

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alberto do you have some seeds?

 

Posted
49 minutes ago, CroToni said:

alberto do you have some seeds?

 

They not produce viable seeds :)

Posted
4 hours ago, Kenarr09 said:

They not produce viable seeds :)

oh ok,that is good to know.

Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, CroToni said:

oh ok,that is good to know.

They produced some seeds but I didn´t germinate them. Have to try again .

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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Hopefully mine will be as beautiful as Alberto's

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TexasColdHardyPalms, where did you purchase yours?  Alberto, where did you buy yours?

This is a rare hybrid and I am only aware of one supplier.  I am just curious to know if there are other commercial hybridizers out there.

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8 hours ago, Sandy Loam said:

......  Alberto, where did you buy yours?

 

Years ago I swapped seeds with Patric Schaffer 

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I have two B x PJC and two BxPJ Sunka all of which are Patric Schaffer creations straight from the man himself.

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Where can I get seeds from that species??

 

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31 minutes ago, CroToni said:

Where can I get seeds from that species??

 

Patric Schaffer  does not sell seeds, but only seedlings of hybrids that produces 

GIUSEPPE

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CroToni, Patric Schaffer may still be at coolhybrids@wildblue.net

....although you probably already knew that if you read PalmTalk from time to time.

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My Butia X Para. coco. has been frustrating. It's quite a bit less leaf hardy than any of my other hybrids. I think the F1s are just variable. I planted a Butia X Para. sunka right next to it that I will compare going forward. The loser will get cut down. I'm betting sunka is gonna win.

Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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Buffy, I see that you are in northeastern Texas (zone 8a or 8b?), which presumably means somewhere around Dallas.  Hopefully, the lack of leaf-hardiness in this hybrid (Butia x Parajubaea Cocoides) won't be a problem where I am located in zone 9a, but many PalmTalk followers will be eager to see the results of your experiment.  Please do post photos at least once a year.

I chose Butia x Parajubaea Cocoides because it had received so many rave reviews on PalmTalk.  I am still just amazed that these Butia x Parajubaea hybrids only come from a single source.  Meanwhile, Mule Palms are turning up everywhere here in Florida (central to northern Florida, that is), even though they risk dying of Fusarium, unlike any Butia x Parajubaea hybrid.

I may try the Butia x Parajubaea Sunkha at some point as well, but I have my doubts that it will grow as tall as BxPJC over the course of time.  Any Butia Odorata lineage is already a limitation on the palm's eventual height.

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Alberto, what is your advice for corrected the Potassium deficiency commonly seen with these palms?

 

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