Identify these palms in San Diego

[Figgi11]

Hello.  I spotted these a few years ago at the pier next to the Grand Hyatt.  They look like scaled down versions of the coconut palm.  Can they be Beccariophoenix alfredi?

 

 

[dwimss]

howea forsteriana - kentia palm

[Figgi11]

Beautiful.  Which one better resembles the coconut?  Which is more cold hardy?

Edited August 2, 2017 by Figgi11

[Hammer]

2 hours ago, Figgi11 said:

Beautiful.  Which one better resembles the coconut?  Which is more cold hardy?

Cold hardiness is still being discussed but it is probably pretty similar for both. Perhaps a slight edge to the Howeas.

In terms of look alike...  Alfies are darn near twins of Cocos.  Jeff Searle's nursery in Florida has both near each other.  It was amazing how similar they looked when I saw them in person in together. 

[Hammer]

1 hour ago, Hammer said:

Cold hardiness is still being discussed but it is probably pretty similar for both. Perhaps a slight edge to the Howeas.

In terms of look alike...  Alfies are darn near twins of Cocos.  Jeff Searle's nursery in Florida has both near each other.  It was amazing how similar they looked when I saw them in person in together. 

I meant slight edge to the Alfredii. 

[Figgi11]

Thanks! I appreciate your help.  Being up in NJ it's just wishful thinking but I've always been fond of plants and palms.  Just keeping my inground fig trees alive over the winter is a blessing for me!  

[Hammer]

1 hour ago, Figgi11 said:

Thanks! I appreciate your help.  Being up in NJ it's just wishful thinking but I've always been fond of plants and palms.  Just keeping my inground fig trees alive over the winter is a blessing for me!  

Check out some of the posts from Jim Hardy.   He is growing all kinds of cool stuff in the ground in z5 Iowa.  It'll take some effort in Winter, but you could grow some of the hardier palms there.  

[palmfriend]

On 2017/8/3 7:40:01, Figgi11 said:

Hello.  I spotted these a few years ago at the pier next to the Grand Hyatt.  They look like scaled down versions of the coconut palm.  Can they be Beccariophoenix alfredi?

 

Wow, wow, wow -

those are really beautiful!!!

I have never expected Howeas to be so striking. I am glad I have two groups of three... - I have planted them four years ago and they

are just now starting to show some real growth. This photo will definitely strengthen my patience...

best regards

Lars

 

[Figgi11]

On 8/4/2017, 9:43:55, palmfriend said:

Wow, wow, wow -

those are really beautiful!!!

I have never expected Howeas to be so striking. I am glad I have two groups of three... - I have planted them four years ago and they

are just now starting to show some real growth. This photo will definitely strengthen my patience...

best regards

Lars

 

Good luck!  I remember when I saw them I

thought of a compact coconut palm.

[John Max]

On 8/3/2017 at 1:40 AM, Figgi11 said:

Hello.  I spotted these a few years ago at the pier next to the Grand Hyatt.  They look like scaled down versions of the coconut palm.  Can they be Beccariophoenix alfredi?

 

 

 

[Blueman]

We had a freeze/frost in FL this winter affecting most of the state, my B alfredii were undamaged in 10A, while nearby royals and Adonidia lost foliage.  From what I've seen, alfredii is clearly the hardiest in its genus due to the elevation of its habitat, possibly hardy in 9B.  I doubt Howea ( which is scarce here) would have made it through without damage.  

 

[SeanK]

Aren't Kentias super slow growers?

I've only seen them at LAX.