Livistona mariae

[caixeta]

Beautiful species , wonderful red leaves .

[gyuseppe]

it is not  livistona mariae,it should be  livistona rigida,but my livistona rigida   has   leaflets more wide
 

[caixeta]

1 hour ago, gyuseppe said:

it is not  livistona mariae,it should be  livistona rigida,but my livistona rigida   has   leaflets more wide
 

I bought seeds like Livistona mariae from RPS . Can some specialist please identify ?

[quaman58]

I thought only mariae had those red leaves, although I could be wrong. I wish they stayed that way; mine looks indistinguishable from a lot of other Livistona now that it's overhead.

[mike in kurtistown]

I think I recall that DNA studies showed that Livistona (right genus this time?) mariae and rigida were genetically the same. In fact, there was more genetic variation among the isolated populations of L. rigida along the north coast of Oz than between mariae and rigida. There is speculation that the inland species, mariae, originates from transportation of seeds or plants by aboriginal populations.

 

[tropicbreeze]

It's now Livistona mariae ssp. mariae and Livistona mariae ssp. rigida. Mariae was named before rigida so that name takes precedence. Both species can exhibit the redness in small plants. However, I've found that ssp. mariae shows it most of the time whereas although common in ssp. rigida, it's less so. That's based on plants in habitat.

Ssp. mariae

Ssp. rigida

[Josh-O]

killer trait. I wish they did not grow out of this. I have both and they look just a bit different as well

well said Zig

[caixeta]

11 hours ago, tropicbreeze said:

It's now Livistona mariae ssp. mariae and Livistona mariae ssp. rigida. Mariae was named before rigida so that name takes precedence. Both species can exhibit the redness in small plants. However, I've found that ssp. mariae shows it most of the time whereas although common in ssp. rigida, it's less so. That's based on plants in habitat.

Ssp. mariae

Ssp. rigida

11 hours ago, tropicbreeze said:

Agora é Livistona mariae ssp. mariae e Livistona mariae ssp. rigida. Mariae foi nomeada antes de rigida para que o nome tenha precedência. Ambas as espécies podem exibir a vermelhidão em pequenas plantas. No entanto, descobri que ssp. Mariae mostra a maior parte do tempo enquanto que, embora comum em ssp. rigida, é menos assim. Isso é baseado em plantas em habitat.

Ssp. mariae

Ssp. rigida

Thanks for the explanations  Zig .

[gyuseppe]

16 hours ago, tropicbreeze said:

È ora Livistona mariae ssp. mariae e Livistona mariae ssp. rigida. Mariae è stata nominata prima della rigida in modo che il nome prenda la precedenza. Entrambe le specie possono esibire l'arrossamento in piccole piante. Tuttavia, ho scoperto che ssp. la mariae la mostra la maggior parte del tempo mentre sebbene comune in ssp. rigida, è meno. Questo è basato su piante in habitat.

Ssp. Mariae

 

 

these do not are  livistona rigida ?

[tropicbreeze]

Like Mike in kurtistown said, DNA studies showed L. mariae and L. rigida were the same species but different subspecies. Because L. mariae was named first it means that L. rigida had to be changed to that but as Livistona mariae ssp. rigida. The original L. mariae became Livistona mariae ssp. mariae.