clinostigma savoryanum

[Patrick Palms]

Any advise on this Palm? Type of soil ? Water needs?  And which month do these normally seed?

[richnorm]

Doesn't seem fussy but you need a frost free climate!

[Kim]

Savoryanum is the most cool-tolerant of the Clinostigma. I have seen them growing (slowly) in California gardens and surviving some winter cold. Never let it dry out, but sitting in soaked soil is not good either. Sharp draining medium is best. 

[quaman58]

I've had bad luck with overhead watering on this one; it can develop crown rot in cool conditions easily in my experience. I'm on my 3rd one, so hopefully I've finally got it figured out.

[Tracy]

17 hours ago, Kim said:

I have seen them growing (slowly) in California gardens and surviving some winter cold. Never let it dry out, but sitting in soaked soil is not good either. Sharp draining medium is best. 

They definitely appreciate not drying out, so will take some attention if you are growing in a spot prone to any drying wind.  My experience was that it does appreciate plenty of sun and slowed significantly during our cool winters (when mine also is in mostly shade).  An attractive palm and as Kim mentioned a bit slow in Southern California.  The one pictured is about 9 years from when it had a single undivided leaf, growing in Carlsbad, CA about 3/4 of a mile from the Pacific.

[Kokioula]

Love this palm! In Hawaii savoryanum are the only Clinostigma that doesn't grow to tower out of the garden. Aloha!

[MattyB]

They will take full inland sun but if given filtered light it’s easier to keep them looking perfect with moderate water. 

Edited February 14, 2018 by MattyB

[ellidro]

Anyone else have trouble with whitefly with them. Certain plants seem to be more prone to bug infestations and savoryanum was one for me that always had whitefly that I never was able to get rid of. My friend rusty had a nice one as well that he said always had whitefly too. 

[Patrick Palms]

It's a beautiful Palm.  Amazing in fact..love the arched leafs..  So this Palm hates dry humid conditions ?

[Hilo Jason]

11 hours ago, ellidro said:

Anyone else have trouble with whitefly with them. Certain plants seem to be more prone to bug infestations and savoryanum was one for me that always had whitefly that I never was able to get rid of. My friend rusty had a nice one as well that he said always had whitefly too. 

I was always battling white fly on mine in Fallbrook. Although it seemed like the larger they got, the less whitefly problems they had. But I think that was also because I started taking out my nearby Hibiscus that were whitefly magnets. 

[Pip]

I have a small seedling it is experiencing it's 3rd summer and was looking great until a few days ago, a chewing insect began it's attack. Good bye perfect leaves. I'll have to wait until next summer now.

[richnorm]

19 hours ago, Patrick Palms said:

It's a beautiful Palm.  Amazing in fact..love the arched leafs..  So this Palm hates dry humid conditions ?

No problem with humidity for me.  As mentioned above, sucking insects can be a difficulty in young plants but they grow out of it when trunking size.

[MattyB]

They do seem to be magnets for bugs when they are young.  I started off with about 15 of them as 2 leafers and ended up with only 3 by the time I got them up to plant out size

[LJG]

Yep, it is the only palm in my yard to get whitefly. But like "Fallbrook" Jason said, they seem to out grow it.  

[Tracy]

On 2/14/2018, 11:56:30, Hilo Jason said:

I was always battling white fly on mine in Fallbrook. Although it seemed like the larger they got, the less whitefly problems they had.

Same experience as Jason, Matty, Len, but definitely grew out of most of the problem.  I considered planting another in Leucadia, but it is the most water demanding palm in my other garden.  I was making an effort to balance water demanding palms with water conserving cycads, aloes and agaves in the new garden, so the Clinostigma didn't make the list.  My sandy soil here also drains much faster, so the water demands are greater here than in the Carlsbad clay.  I guess that's worth mentioning that the one in Carlsbad did fine in a clay soil even though only the top 3' of soil was amended.  The elevated planter also helps.

[realarch]

Matty, that's a beautiful trio of C. savoryanum and because they are planted so close together, will remain so for many years.

Tim