My hybrid Phoenix collection.

[Phoenikakias]

Many times have been posted here pictures of Phoenix hybrids, but mostly no one knows for sure their history and thus the parent spp or hybrids involved in their genesis. Base only on external features, one can just consider possible the one or the other sp as possible parent. In my case however all  growing hybrids are the result od deliberate crossing and therefore parentage is certain for every hybrid, provided of course that parent individuals are correctly identified. So I think that a summarizing topic for all my hybrids can be useful to someone in the future to wanying to find out the parentage of hybrids without pedigree.  Also this topic is meant to be actualized now and then. First I start with my roebelenii x dactylifera hybrid, which has started blooming for the first time. 

Abaxial sise of pinnae

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P loureiroi x roebelenii

Abaxial side of pinnae

In comparison an genuine juvenile roebelenii of somewhat smaller size, but having double (or more) the age of those hybrids!

 

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P reclinata x roebelenii

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And finally my favorite hybrid, reclinata x hybrid ? (maybe hybrid reclinata because it had been bought as a reclinata hybrid, but sincerely nothing on it reminds me of reclinata).

[gilles06]

Nice collection, i like your roeb x reclinata

Salut ;)

[Cikas]

Great collection! These will look even better older, more mature. 

[Phoenikakias]

2 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

And finally my favorite hybrid, reclinata x hybrid ? (maybe hybrid reclinata because it had been bought as a reclinata hybrid, but sincerely nothing on it reminds me of reclinata).

Correct formulation is that hybrid parent had been bought as genuine reclinata.

 

[Kris]

Nice phoenix palms and they are looking great.

Thanks for the visuals...even iam a phoenix palm 'Fan'.

Love,

Kris.

 

[DoomsDave]

@Phoenikakias! Your garden looks like mine, with the dustpan next to the palms! Love the P. dactylifera hybrid!

Mutts are more common here than pure-bred Phoenix. I have a nice set of Ph. rupicola.

Phoenix were my favorite in the early stages of my condition. Tough, easy to grow, and, as a group, relatively cheap. They're less popular than they used to be because of their spines. It's amazing how you sort of get drawn into them, as if by magnetic witchcraft. The spines on the large ones are really lethal.

[kinzyjr]

@Phoenikakias Very nice specimens!

[Rafael]

@Phoenikakias rich collection! Looking forward to next years' updates!

[Palmensammler]

Hi Phoenikakias,

very nice collection. Phoenix palms are very nice and easy to grow. Never had more success then with seeds from Phoenix (CIDP, dactylifera, acaulis, roebeleni, theophrasti and some unknown from Taiwan).

Waiting for updates.

Eckhard

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17 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi Phoenikakias,

very nice collection. Phoenix palms are very nice and easy to grow. Never had more success then with seeds from Phoenix (CIDP, dactylifera, acaulis, roebeleni, theophrasti and some unknown from Taiwan).

Waiting for updates.

Eckhard

Trust me, some Phoenix hybrid seeds have quite low germination rate. You can also read my post in a recent topic about the committed germination mistakes. Beside the dna compatibility, there is another factor, namely the metaxenia effect on the formation of fruit and seed. In other words a successful cross pollination may cause the production of peculiar hormones, which affect positively or negatively the development of fruits and seeds. 

[Nakheel1412]

Beautiful collection !

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On the occasion of someone browsing all my past posts about the Phoenix hybrids, I discovered again this old topic and thought to add a couple new acquisitions and post a couple updates. So first my older new acquisition, Phoenix loureiroi x theophrasti

Is that the future strip of sclerotic tannin cells along the leaflet margins?

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Phoenikakias

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Then the Phoenix roebelenii x theophrasti.  OK I have shown it previously in another topic but I haveto include it here to the purpose of making topic as possibly comprehensive.

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Update of the Phoenix loureiroi x roebelenii

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Update of the Phoenix reclinata x roebelenii

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Update of the Phoenix reclinata x hybrid reclinata. Two distinct forms of hybrids!

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And finally the Phoenix roebelenii x dactylifera

Female flowers are very moderately fertile and male flowers are sterile.

I managed to back cross the female both with dactylifera and roebelenii and the difference in seed shape and fertility is remarkable to the favour of roebelenii. Top line seeds and fruits pollinated by dactylifera, bottom line seeds and fruits pollinated by roebelenii.

 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Phoenikakias