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Removal of dead 800 pound gorilla

DoomsDave

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Alas it was time to cut down the standing carcass

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But my handy helper managed to drop it and not a thing was damaged!

Time for s little gloating 

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Is palm wood good for burning / fires ? 

What was it? 

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Holy moly! What was that monster?

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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It was a Parajubaea tor tor, affectionately called the "800 Pound Gorilla" because of its size and the relative speed with which it grew. Alas, it died from a vascular tissue-blocking rot last year, and we didn't get to removing it till yesterday.

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And now you have a nice picnic table!

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Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

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7 minutes ago, Missi said:

And now you have a nice picnic table!

I thought about that, but I think it's better to just level it with the ground.

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A sad day indeed......

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Here is my P. cocoides going down a few years ago, the second photo shows the obstructed vascular tissues in the trunk.  I would still plant this genus, I had 25 years of great appearance and growth !  It was the landmark palm in my front garden.  The dried coconuts were a little joke.  Two old Phillipina ladies insisted that my palm was a coconut!  :D

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San Francisco, California

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2 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

Here is my P. cocoides going down a few years ago, the second photo shows the obstructed vascular tissues in the trunk.  I would still plant this genus, I had 25 years of great appearance and growth !  It was the landmark palm in my front garden.  The dried coconuts were a little joke.  Two old Phillipina ladies insisted that my palm was a coconut!  :D

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Yes, Darold, just like mine. Yours lasted a lot longer.

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And which disease causes this obstructive vascular tissue?

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9 minutes ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

And which disease causes this obstructive vascular tissue?

I believe it's phytoptera

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28 minutes ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

And which disease causes this obstructive vascular tissue?

May be Fusarium, may be Thielaviopsis.

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Bummer Dave. One of mine up and died this summer too. Looked perfect then the lower leafs yellowed and died one by one until finally the spear died. I still need to hack down the corpse. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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Is palm wood good for burning in fires ? It may be a silly question for you guys who don't have fireplaces, but I am curious. 

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Are you going to have the stump ground ?

Removing the roots is tough work!

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20 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

But my handy helper managed to drop it and not a thing was damaged!

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Wow, everyone in L.A. meditates, even the lumberjacks.

I had no idea that parajubaeas succumbed to this vascular-whatever disease.  Can you provide a close-up photo of the diseased area of the trunk (or crown?) so that others can identify it when it happens to them? 

Oh yeah....I forgot --- the tree's gone, so now it's too late for a photo of the infected area, right?    

How common is this vascular-whatnot in parajubaea?   

 

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2 hours ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Are you going to have the stump ground ?

Removing the roots is tough work!

Just going to cut if flush with the ground. Then, maybe try the "hot coal treatment"; the wood's spongy enough, and it's hidden from view.

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Those Shoes are American size 13; 12.5” 32 cm long

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1 hour ago, Sandy Loam said:

Wow, everyone in L.A. meditates, even the lumberjacks.

I had no idea that parajubaeas succumbed to this vascular-whatever disease.  Can you provide a close-up photo of the diseased area of the trunk (or crown?) so that others can identify it when it happens to them? 

Oh yeah....I forgot --- the tree's gone, so now it's too late for a photo of the infected area, right?    

How common is this vascular-whatnot in parajubaea?   

 

He's not meditating, he's pontificating!

Yeah, certain of the cocoid palms are very very susceptible. I lost a Beccariophoenix madagascarensis no window that was about 10 feet all and as many years old, as well as a Jubaea. :badday:

The key symptom is the lower leaves start to die off too soon, and they're colored wrong. A normally senescing leaf will fade from green to a straw yellow to dark brown color. Where the leaf is cut off from water, it turns more of a grayish or even bluish color. (Test for yourself. Cut off a healthy leaf or two from a few palms, and let them dry out. The difference is quite striking and obvious.) All of a sudden, a nice green crown turns all dead, in a month or two. :crying:

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Wow, look at the view that you have now, and

Wow, I didn't know that you were such a snappy dresser.

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/52589-burn-baby-burn-palm-parts-in-the-fireplace/#comment-797563

5 hours ago, santoury said:

Is palm wood good for burning in fires ? It may be a silly question for you guys who don't have fireplaces, but I am curious. 

A perfect question!

I have TWO fireplaces, and use both. And burn palm wood in them. And, the link to the recently-doinked thread is above.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Kai said:

Dave, I'm in shock! I didn't know your gorilla had died.

Any ideas yet on its replacement?

One thing I don't lack is a whole bunch of replacements! Oh yeah. Oh-ho-ho-ho yeah! :D

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35 minutes ago, gtsteve said:

Wow, look at the view that you have now, and

Wow, I didn't know that you were such a snappy dresser.

Wait'll karaoke starts!

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Here it was, last August.

See how grand it still looked. Taken from my rehabbing roof of Doom.

So bummed. :crying:

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No hint of the disaster to come.

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Death Camp of Doom

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Sorry to see this Dave

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Carve a pot in it.

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18 hours ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

A sad day indeed......

Yes, And that was indeed a big sized palm.

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love conquers all..

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That was a gorgeous palm Dave sorry for your loss :(

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On ‎3‎/‎16‎/‎2018‎ ‎6‎:‎59‎:‎23‎, Sandy Loam said:

Wow, everyone in L.A. meditates, even the lumberjacks.

 

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Any treatment for this disease? I wonder if this is happening to Alberto’s butia c parajubaea hybrids?

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So sad to see this.  When I visited it was such an impressive palm.   Truly awesome to see.   Well, now there is room for another.

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bummer Dave! I wonder why this palm crashes like this when they get bigger.

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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34 minutes ago, _Keith said:

So sad to see this.  When I visited it was such an impressive palm.   Truly awesome to see.   Well, now there is room for another.

Yes 

I don’t lack replacements 

 

or or at least substitutes 

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35 minutes ago, Josh-O said:

bummer Dave! I wonder why this palm crashes like this when they get bigger.

A mystery to me too

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Here’s a piece of the base of the trunk. It’s huge and heavy.

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9 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

A mystery to me too

Perhaps weather related?

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