Concern for Leilani Estates as lava moves eastward underground

[WestCoastGal]

For USGS posts, photos, videos, etc.: https://www.facebook.com/USGSVolcanoes/

I found this fb video that Ikaika Marzo had posted yesterday, 5/27, apparently after USGS had left since it was now flowing with lava. Kupono Street is above Nohea on the Malama side of Leilani. This is the Fissure they are referring to F25 and has flowing rivers of lava flowing into old cracks. https://www.facebook.com/ikaika.marzo/videos/1816860821699779/

[WestCoastGal]

More info on PGV, apparently the lava has stalled after covering 2 wells. That plus news from Mileka about Pohoiki Road and Hwy 132. as of 36 min. ago: https://www.facebook.com/pg/milekalincoln.hnn/posts/?ref=page_internal

 

[Pando]

4 hours ago, Moose said:

the gas barrel blows

Ok, this is just totally insane. That thing blew up at 1:52 and the guy didn't even flinch, and he's on a second story on a building that is just about to be surrounded by lava.

Absolutely apocalyptic scene, that footage is unbelievable.

Edited May 28, 2018 by Pando

[WestCoastGal]

Decided to check in on Honolulu Civil Beat Live Feed from the House, which has resumed, and found this little gusher vent forming. Could be interesting to watch it grow. At least no big trees in the way and should get a good view. So not sure how this works. Does this qualify for a new fissure down there?

[Dypsisdean]

I don't think this has been posted yet - time lapse of the last 24 hours - hard to believe what just happened so quickly.

https://www.facebook.com/harry.durgin.1/videos/10156319286999242/UzpfSTEyOTM5MTc5OTQ6MTAyMTUyOTA0NTc5OTY3NTA/

[WestCoastGal]

That was pretty cool to watch. So how much more of Pu'uO'o and the Summit is still left To come I wonder?

I can't recall if anyone asked about what was going on with Makamae up by Kahukai, but Bill, who house is still okay at the moment, lives on the corner and Scott went down the street up to where the lava flow crosses the street.  BTW is that a bismarkia in the front there by the street? Nice silver color. All these palms being lost is so sad as well.

 

Don't think this is a sympathy reaction but just experienced a small earthquake here--only 3.0.

[Dypsisdean]

Good fly-over pic

 

[WestCoastGal]

US Geological Survey, 7am HST 5/28 flyover - same image basically, notice the steam coming from the right side (Nohea and Kupono?)

 

Yikes, Dypsisdean that image is really frightening to look at. Makamae had steaming and/or methane in Scott's video on both sides of the street. Looking at that image, especially if this stuff is still on the move which I assume it is, easy to imagine pushing crossing other streets up there and onto Hwy 132 as well. Or maybe like in the above photo it will just pop up with cracks elsewhere. USGS etc must be crazy trying to locate and track all these.

[Dave-Vero]

I wish videos from the past night and day weren't so numerous and impressive.

It looks like time to think of public support for new housing in another location.  Difficult to do, perhaps impossible.  

[WestCoastGal]

OK noticed USGS just posted their map for 5/28, 3pm HST (6pm PDT): 

Wonder if they forgot to change the text on the Flow expansion. Shouldn't it be through 5/28?

@Patrick, thought I'd let you know it got updated.  Assume they are using drones to survey. 

 

[WestCoastGal]

Some good news for those wanting to use the Pohoiki Boat Ramp/Isaac Hale Beach Park. It's open to the public as delineated below. From Mileka's fb post 5/28. Long lines!

 

[Mike in LB]

I took the aerial photo from Dean's post and placed a circle around my house on Nohea St.  Lava came just a few hundred feet from my back door!

Mike Arends

Leilani Estates

 

[WestCoastGal]

Were you there @Mike in LB at the time or did you see it later? Having seen Travis' video of the advancing lava at the warehouse, what a frightening sight to see coming at you. Were you and your brother evacuated last night and are you able to get back there during the day? Wonder how they're handling that.  Coming that close to lava where I live I don't think I could risk sticking around and being vigilant all the time. I'm sure that guy who fell asleep and woke with lava around his house and called to be rescued was freaking out. Has the lava stalled over on that side?

[Mike in LB]

I was at my brother's house on Kupono St last night.  It was quite a crazy evening.  I was able to get back to my house today.  This picture was taken on one of the trails near the back of my property.  To the east, it looks like a wasteland. I think the house behind me is gone.

Because the power is off at my brother's place, we've left Leilani Estates and will be in Orchidland tonight.

Mike Arends

Leilani Estates

 

[Patrick]

Wow surreal photos NOW KILL THOSE ALBIZIAS!!! 

 

Actually at this point you need all the vegitation you can get!

 

Yeah saw the overhead. Well.. that's that.

Edited May 29, 2018 by Patrick

[Dypsisdean]

As of 1/2 hr ago Ikaika is reporting mandatory evacuation for all of Leilani due to "acid rain,"pumice," and "silica glass" in the air. This is due to the wind (or lack thereof) situation. Major traffic backups in Pahoa.

https://www.facebook.com/ikaika.marzo/videos/1817937448258783/

[Dypsisdean]

Civil Defense 6:00 PM:

"Hawaiian Volcano Observatory reports that a fast moving pahoehoe flow from Fissure 8 is advancing on Nohea and Kupono Streets north of Leilani Street. There are reports of lava fountains on Moku Street.  Anyone in the area, from Pomaikai east, needs to leave now."

[Dypsisdean]

And now reports that the fountaining on Moku has gotten much bigger. There are conflicting reports and not confirmed, but it looks as if it may be shaping up to be another bad night. And with no one left inside Leilani to report - accurate news could be late in arriving.

https://www.facebook.com/lavanews/

[Dave-Vero]

Civilbeat's lavacam is broadcasting.   Weird and creepy.

[Moose]

 Unsubstantiated reports have the number fissures at 30 now, If we have no eyes reporting and are relegated to "official" governmental updates, they will be forthcoming slowly

 

[Dave-Vero]

Dane DuPont reports at Hawaii Tracker (Facebook) this morning (about 3 am Eastern) that 42 homes had been added to his map of the destroyed in the past day.  224 homes now counted as lost, 151 of them in Leilani Estates.  

 

[Moose]

Scott's latest uploaded video. Looks like he did his yard work he has been putting off. @4 pm he says the air quality is good at his place.

Scott usually does not get up for a few more hours, then a bit of a lag before his morning posts. Won't know if he evacuated until then.

[Moose]

Cinder Show and Tell

[Moose]

 

Edited May 29, 2018 by Moose

[Moose]

 

[WestCoastGal]

Morning all. Appreciate the overnight updates. 

Wow have to say I was kind of dreading what last night might have brought while I was sleeping. With no easy flow out to the ocean by underground tubes I've been thinking all along that if there was overflow what with both Pu'uO'o and the Summit this was going to be bad for Leilani and lower Puna. I wonder if USGS has any projections on magma originally at sources and what they estimate has already appeared as lava flow. I'm still thinking Hwy 130 is likely going to rupture and head towards the coast there with all those homes below. With the latest map above doesn't look good for Hwy 132 either. Depressing. And all those homes so far. Yes, the availability of news is going to be limited. 

Here's a look at CB feed from last night and just a little while ago while still dark, almost a 12 hour time difference when taken. Yep, kind of weird and creepy and inhospitable, like some distant molten planet. We "tuned in" last night during dinner and my husband thought it was kind of boring to watch, not much of a moving lava flow visible. I knew come nightfall it would look more intriguing.

 

 

[WestCoastGal]

Watching the 3 videos Scott posted. Sounds like he slept through the evac Ikaika mentioned last night? or ignored it.

Actually just found this post from Big Island Video News (with Map including Pomaikai and east) as of Monday, 6pm HST. http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2018/05/28/6-pm-eruption-update-new-lava-flow-threatens-parts-of-leilani-estates/  Wouldn't include where Scott is but believe alert evac area certainly covered more than half of Leilani Estates.

Edited May 29, 2018 by WestCoastGal
added comments and Big Island Video news info

[Dave-Vero]

The lava fountains look as though they're powered by a lot of expanding gas.  Then once on the surface, the lava obeys gravity.  But if degassing is a major factor in how the magma-carrying fractures and voids work, the stuff might be behaving just a bit like soda pop.  I'm sure the geologists have given long thought and experiment...

[WestCoastGal]

@Dave-Vero the gas has definitely factored into the geologists rethinking of the Summit area. This from today's Big Island Video News: http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2018/05/29/video-scientists-rethinking-kilauea-summit-explosion-mechanism/  There's a video interview with one of the USGS geologists included about the widening of the crater there (covered in article text).

As of yesterday's USGS Alert there has been no movement in the location of earthquakes in the Leilani/lower Puna area. 

[WestCoastGal]

Morning view from the CB House:

Anthony's flying into Hilo and will be at the House today. Working on possibilty for remote camera on the cell tower which is locate on the House property. Someone just cleaned the lens and adjusted the view a bit. Its windy there today and the camera is shaking a bit so don't think the movement is due to earthquakes. 

Honestly I'd love to see someone put up a Live feed camera from some place like the LE Community Center cell tower. Other than one off 132 near Lava Tree I don't see any others around to give a good vantage point.

[WestCoastGal]

New Scott video as of 5:07am HST. Bill's house at corner of Makamae and Kahukai is still untouched, so confirms the map where the lava had diverted more to the east. And I saw a commentor on one of his videos say that Bill and wife had evacuated in one of the latest evac rounds and are staying with friends. I really don't want to hear of someone staying in their house and either while sleeping or not aware end up with the house overrun by the lava or the area fissures output a deadly blanket of SO2 and the residents can't get out.

 

[WestCoastGal]

Moose I was just watching the little cinder videos and got to the third video you posted only to see the owner had taken it down from Youtube. Do you remember what it was of?

[Funkthulhu]

I just want to thank everybody who is posting.  This is one of the most informative threads I am monitoring online this month, and this one in particular excels at bringing a human element to this event.  

Mahalo

[WestCoastGal]

Funkthulhu, speaking of human element, I was on the live chat on HCB's feed and saw the link to the Pu'uhonua O Puna. For us non-Hawaiian speaking mainlanders that's Info Supply Hub that Ikaika Marzo helped establish at the beginning the eruptions to help the local displaced community. Not being on fb I don't think I've posted their link before but it's actually pretty much public viewable (with facebook message occasionally popping up--and if you get the Not Logged In screen just refresh the window and the site comes back to be visible). Anyway the CB Live feed commentor said that people can still give through a bank fund that was set up for the Hub. I'll have to find more info on that or maybe someone already has that info available*. The funds sent here go directly to help the community here. First time looking around the fb account and very nicely done. A few things I can access but most of it visible. Here's the link. There's also photos and videos posted.

https://www.facebook.com/puuhonuaopuna/

*If local to the Island, the Bank of Hawaii in Hilo is where the Pu'uhonua o Puna fund is set up at.

[WestCoastGal]

While checking out the Hub's fb sections under Community tab I see that they have expanded the Hub to 2 new locations in the area including one in Kalapana for those residents down there. While they may still have their homes many may have lost their jobs in the affected area including working at the HVNP, village of Volcano, etc. If anyone is in the area and can help volunteer in any way, serving food, organizing donations, I'm sure the extra hands would be welcome.

Hey I was wondering about Spam. I know it's kind of an Island staple (even found it on the menu at a Bay Area Hawaiian restaurant we use to eat at occasionally when up in the bay area some years ago). Anyway the post under Community is from Hormel Foods Corp. indicating they sent a sizable donation to Convoy of Hope earlier and they are sending a barge over to the island and they are working on sending food for relief. 

If you donate through GoFundMe, here's the Hub's page: https://www.gofundme.com/puuhonuaopuna . Do want to mention they don't have  recognized tax charity status and so donations are only thru credit card (no PayPal).

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I think the Hub will be our best source of info on what's happening within Leilani and Lower Puna should LE be evacuated further and we lose our people on the ground who live in sections no longer accessible.

If you didn't see the original info posted on the Hub, here's a video made to show how they are caring for the community:

 

[WestCoastGal]

Found this link on the Hub's Community section to a video produced by Spotmatik of the Kilauea eruption flow and posted 2 days ago. If you aren't a Vimeo member unfortunately you can't leave comments for the video. Set to music and quite stunning. Power and undeniable beauty of Pele in all her many forms.

 

[WestCoastGal]

Bad news, saw this post just now from Mileka Lincoln's fb page. Posted at 8am HST (11am PDT) about Hwy 132 being shut down. She has a video included which you can see here: https://www.facebook.com/pg/milekalincoln.hnn/posts/?ref=page_internal

[Moose]

2 hours ago, WestCoastGal said:

Moose I was just watching the little cinder videos and got to the third video you posted only to see the owner had taken it down from Youtube. Do you remember what it was of?

It was Scott's video, going over a google map with lava flow overlay.

[Moose]

2 hours ago, WestCoastGal said:

Moose I was just watching the little cinder videos and got to the third video you posted only to see the owner had taken it down from Youtube. Do you remember what it was of?

 

8 minutes ago, Moose said:

It was Scott's video, going over a google map with lava flow overlay.

After viewing Scott's 5:07am video, I see why he took it off You Tube. The map showed Bill's house cut off  and inaccessible. Seeing that the map was inaccurate and his video misleading, I am sure he pulled it as soon as he got home.

[WestCoastGal]

18 minutes ago, Moose said:

 

After viewing Scott's 5:07am video, I see why he took it off You Tube. The map showed Bill's house cut off  and inaccessible. Seeing that the map was inaccurate and his video misleading, I am sure he pulled it as soon as he got home.

We observed the differing maps here ourselves. Until USGS gets out to map and send coordinates or sends drones over the area, it's not something to count on. I do think they are getting the info from people on the ground as best they can and the google map usually says "estimated flow". I see the google community mapping project has already updated their maps to show what's going on by the GPV access road and from Pohoiki Road. I would rather see the projections I think, although we don't have property there. 

BTW for people using the google Community Mapping Project to follow along, if you click on "A Community Mapping Project" it will drop down to show you a list of the most recent updates to the map.