Concern for Leilani Estates as lava moves eastward underground

[WestCoastGal]

The Civil Beat cam is totally "vogged in" with the exception of some blades of plant leaves you can see right in the foreground, but barely.

Just checked the PGV cam to compare and this is what LE has right now that extends northward to Hawaiian Paradise Park where Civil Beat camera is.  Checked WeatherUnderground and it's raining there now in Lower Puna but not in Hawaiian Paradise Park.

[Dave-Vero]

14 hours ago, WestCoastGal said:

Interesting research article John (fb EpicLavaTours) posted a link to having to do with a gradual caldera collapse in Iceland due to lateral magma outflow. Similar to our Kilauea situation?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305339928_Gradual_caldera_collapse_at_Bardarbunga_volcano_Iceland_regulated_by_lateral_magma_outflow

It needs a certain kind of geologist to properly read, but Bárðarbunga, Iceland's biggest volcano, is enough like Kilauea (basaltic) for the caldera collapse and lava flow situation to look similar.  You have the situation of magma tending moving upward (buoyancy), but also tending to leak sideways.  Fun with temperature and pressure.   

A major initial point of the paper is that basalitc volcanos seem to do slow caldera collapses while silicic volcanos (like Pinatubo in the Philippines) do them abruptly.  Models of the last Yellowstone caldera collapse are based on it being very sudden and exceedingly violent--ash deposits are as far away as Texas. 

The spectacular collapse of Kilauea's caldera has deprived us of what was perhaps Hawaii's grandest tourist attraction, but it is assuredly going to be one of the best-documented volcanic events ever.  Icelanders will be fascinated.

[WestCoastGal]

Ryan Finlay (fb Hawaii Tracker group) started a very interest post/thread about thinking about the future of Puna and what was essential initially, and people have been giving their feedback and ideas in response. I know this is also a topic of an upcoming community meeting in Puna that several gov't representatives have invited residents to participate in. Anyway if you want to read the comments and/or participate in the fb thread if you are a fb user, here's the Hawaii Tracker group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/hawaiitracker/ Look for Ryan's post, probably will remain near the top.

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I also spotted this post by Dane DuPont regarding flyovers and mostly about "seeps". What they are, how they differ from spillovers, where one was seen and what the thinking is on them. They pose a potential risk wherever they happen so good time to get educated on them. Here's Dane's post.

 

[WestCoastGal]

Video posted by Scott as he interviews a fellow LE resident from Canada who just arrived to take a look at things.

 

Video from Gabe (YT H.I.S Survival) down at F10 for a return look:

 

[WestCoastGal]

Saw a post on fb Hawaii Tracker group by LE resident Thomas Willemin, who shared from a financial aspect what he has gone through so far on his house that was located on Luana St. and was covered in lava. If you have an affected home, you might want to check out his post and the comments that others have left.

BTW today (6/28) the County's Real Property Tax Office form for his home is now showing as "Complete Demolition of Existing Structure(s) Destroyed in the 2018 Kilauea Eruption". It was "inspected" on 6/13 which probably means by overflight photos in their case since it was involved in a large flow area. A property 2 lots down and across the street from his has not yet received loss verification, nor has a house 3 doors* down. Might give you some idea of how long the property tax reduction for affected homeowners is taking to process.

*Just noticed these homeowners had a sale date of 4/17/18 and deed recording date of 4/23/18. Can't imagine how they feel.

 

[WestCoastGal]

Over the last day or two there have been a few posts/videos shared about cauldera collapse here in this thread. USGS just made this post to it's fb page showing a subsidence scarp that formed over the past few days near the Keanakako'i Crater overlook.

If you want to read the comments to this post, here's the link to their fb page: https://www.facebook.com/USGSVolcanoes/posts/2087497587945458

[WestCoastGal]

Video shared by Hawaii Volcanoes National Park on updates on the eruptions and closure. BTW the view angle does get correted shortly after start!

 

[WestCoastGal]

A KHON2 news report tonight.

[WestCoastGal]

John (fb EpicLava) just posted an update video on the Volcano golf course area with the cracking and subsidence. 

 

[WestCoastGal]

Civil Beat live cam views:

And Jack wanted us to see this view of the moon, the top half was covered by the clouds. 

A bit later the moon emerged from the clouds for a bit

Only to have the clouds start to obscure it again.

[WestCoastGal]

It's been 2 months, 60 days since the eruption happened in Leilani. Update with Ikaika, brother John, and Philip Ong. Ikaika relays that the HUB is breaking ground tomorrow to build 50 micro units. Discussion was on seeps, channel flow and overflows-- they discuss 3 options why this might be happening.

 

 

[Moose]

  Philip Ong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaGphGMf3dw

 

 

During the 2018 Kīlauea eruption, a submerged lava boat glides along the river bottom, emerging through the shallow rapids before sinking again further downstream

 

[Moose]

Leilani Estates update with Charles (YT Doing Hawaii)

 

Published on Jun 29, 2018

The Hawaii Volcano Kilauea Eruption News Report Update for Leilani Estates 6/28/2018

[WestCoastGal]

If anyone has homeowners insurance through Lloyds of London, saw this angry homeowner's post and wanted to give a heads up should your policy with them still be in effect but coming up for renewal. https://www.facebook.com/jordan.sonner.9/posts/10216285199060624

Here's an article from West Hawaii Today from 6/7/18 on moratoriums on new business during disasters and the Hawaii Property Insurance Association that was created by lawmakers in 1991 after Kalapana. In part here's the info from the article that those who were cancelled by their carrier and looking to HPIA will want to know:

• "But as far as people trying to get new insurance now, HPIA has implemented a six-month waiting period.
• It will, however, issue policies for homeowners who are being non-renewed by their insurer with no waiting period as long as they can prove they have insurance in effect.
• But as far as the reason for the waiting period during a perilous time in an area that was a major reason HPIA was created, it referred to the Hawaii Revised Statutes that authorizes it to sell and place a maximum six-month waiting period in disaster areas where other companies have issued moratoriums."

[WestCoastGal]

From KHON2 yesterday, "the Department of Health is investing more than $1M to install 10 new long-term stationary air quality monitoring stations at strategic locations across Hawaii Island, as well as mobile laboratories, to create a robust data gathering system." These are part of a 3-Phase plan to provided residents with better information on their air quality.

There are presently 5 long-term stationary monitors: Hilo, Kailua-Kona, Mountain View, Ocean View, and Pahala. A sixth station is presumed to be covered in lava in Leilani Estates. For more info on the plan, which locations have already been determined, see: https://www.khon2.com/news/local-news/sulfur-dioxide-levels-falling-more-monitoring-planned-for-hawaii-island/1272016153

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Puna District commander, Maj. Samuel Jelsma spoke with Hawaii Tribune-Herald about the issues of looting raised at Tuesday's Pahoa Community Meeting: http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/06/29/hawaii-news/police-persistent-claims-about-looting-are-mostly-just-rumors/

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Video from last night's Community Meeting with Volcano Village residents and National Park and USGS regarding the condition of the summit and the park's closure status.

 

[WestCoastGal]

USGS updates:

Alert as of Thurs., 6/28 @ 10:57am HST (1:57pm PDT): https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/status.html

Photo section updated: https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/multimedia_chronology.html

Map update as of 6/28 @ 2pm HST: 

Map: US Geological Survey

PGV cam:

Last day of views from the Civil Beat live cam, from just now:

and from earlier this morning:

and at one point the sky this morning was very clear and you could actually see the crater rim. This is the first time I was able to distinguish it as mornings have been either voggy or it was raining. The fountaining as you guys know has more or less only gone above the rim on occasion lately what with the rim being 180 feet high at it's highest point. Thinking this location early on when the cone was lower and the fountaining was 200-250 ft. might have been a pretty awesome view. Jack said he could see the lava back then, not just the glow in the clouds. I'm really going to be sorry to see this camera get taken down.

 

[WestCoastGal]

Some of you here may know LE resident Kris Burmeister and his two sons, who lost their home to lava on May 27. His boss started a go-fund-me page for Kris and I saw Ryan Finlay post it on the fb Hawaii Tracker group. Here's the link: https://www.gofundme.com/SingleDadMarineLosestoLava

[WestCoastGal]

Presentation that Hawaii Senator Brian Schatz gave: 

 

[WestCoastGal]

Bob Kirk on fb Hawaii Tracker group shared this about non-renewed homeowners insurance polices for anyone in that situation or may find themselves in it.

[Moose]

 

[Moose]

This is a long video, Community meeting in Volcano. Update about the National Park

 

[WestCoastGal]

New lot area being cleared for micro housing (HUB and others involved in this project). Ikaika was talking about this in his meeting at the HUB last night. 

 

[WestCoastGal]

Reminder. May be last chance to see a live feed from the Big Island of the lower puna area and F8. Lots of cloud cover and F8 still putting out a lot of steam so looking good for a red/orange steam view. Hopefully Jack will be there to zoom in like last night. Honolulu Civil Beat is coming by Sunday to pick up the camera equipment needed elsewhere so this is probably our last chance for any live video for some time. Here's the link to the live feed right now. They're running on 22 hours streaming right now so not sure if this can be saved to CB YT channel or not. Thought there was a maximum number of hours. 

 

[WestCoastGal]

fb Scott Wilson had this report on the Kapoho Beach Lot homes that were claimed by lava.

I know that just because you think it's stopped in it's tracks you can't take anything for granted. Sorry Puna lost another 2 homes.

[WestCoastGal]

If anyone in the area can help with evacuations tomorrow, Saturday, Kris Burmeister put out this call for helpers. 

3 people replied on fb Hawaii Tracker group they could make it in the a.m. and one said he had a cattle trailer he would be available for mid day. That person said they had gone into LE tonight and helped a family out. Reach out if you are able, sure they've love to see some new faces lending a hand. BTW Kris is one of the LE residents who lost his house to lava (posted about him a few posts above). I know from the fb posts that he and Heath have gone on a number of evac missions. 

[WestCoastGal]

The things that we take for granted like doing laundry and having clean smelling clothes! Hawaii News Now has this story tonight of LE resident Dean Krakauer who now finds himself with rent payments and doing laundry at the Pahoa Suds and Duds. Thanks to the Puna Baptist Church's laundry voucher program for evacuees like Mr. Krakauer they are able to help get people back on their feet again even in small ways like laundry expense. There's a phone number or email for the Puna Baptist Church if you want to help out in this small way.

http://m.hawaiinewsnow.com/hawaiinewsnow/db_330510/contentdetail.htm?full=true&contentguid=xeEIqHnd&pn=&ps=#display

 

[WestCoastGal]

I really like this photo by Joyce Hsieh that she shared on fb Hawaii Tracker group. The lighting is awesome down by F8 in contrast to the rest of the area.

 

[WestCoastGal]

Citations for tresspassing in the lava zone are now up to 83. A Russian man was cited and his drone was confiscated near Nanawale Forest Preserve and Lava Tree State Park. 

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Sadly after dusk, no one was there to change setting to low-light on the Civil Beat live feed camera. Unfortunate given it's the last night. You can hear the waves crashing and croquis but black screen. I'm hearing voices so maybe someone will do some adjustments but nothing yet.

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The official homes lost count is now at 668. http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/06/29/breaking-news/halemaumau-crater-explosion-generates-small-ash-plume/

 

[Dave-Vero]

The community meeting at Volcano was informative, very polite, and discouraging in terms of reopening, apart from the Mauna Loa road.  

While Volcano House is offering reservations after mid-July, it's rather clear that with the water system drained to minimize further damage, and with ground slumping expanding in a northwesterly direction, there is little reason to expect the campground facilities to reopen anytime soon.  Likewise, there's no way of  forecasting Kilauea's behavior.  A somewhat similar situation around 1500 led to fountaining on a huge scale that dumped lots of stuff on Volcano.  Then again, the present event might be winding down.

To a rough first-order approximation, lava output has been equivalent to the volume of slumping at the caldera.  Maybe 30% of the near-summit lava reservoir??  

[WestCoastGal]

Speaking of the Volcano area, here's Mayor Kim's plea to the Council going to bat for the 0.25% General Excise and use tax surcharge adoption. He starts off with the impact of the closing of the Hawaii Volcano National Park. Continued to speak on why the passage of this tax was necessary, due to the previous cuts that only were to maintain status quo, and that was before the eruption which has changed everything. The tax passed.

The following is the Council's passage of the Bill 159 (including video):

http://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2018/06/29/video-hawaii-county-council-approves-ge-tax-surcharge/

 

[WestCoastGal]

The animal rescues into the lava zone continue. Hawaii Tribune-Herald had this article about the efforts being made beyond the cow rescue by helicopter people saw in the news.

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/06/29/hawaii-news/humane-society-says-most-animal-rescues-from-eruption-zone-involve-chickens-cats/

 

[WestCoastGal]

These are from fb Hawaii Lava Updates site: 

Shared by HOPE Services Hawaii

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In in daily reading I come across a lot of people who want to help the lava animals. I had previously heard about Candi Salazar's efforts to help care for the animals of displaced owners who had to evacuate. A request tonight has gone out for help on fb Hawaii Lava Updates. I believe I read on tonight's CB live feed chat (or maybe on fb Hawaii Tracker group) that someone had called Home Depot and ordered some fencing for someone in need. Have to wonder if it wasn't for her. Other people have said if you want to help out you can also order feed for the animals. I see both of these items mentioned in the article.

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More on Ikaika's HUB project for micro housing. Don't know about you guys but after watching years of Alaska Gold Rush, I'd love to drive a D9 LOL. 

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One person, Micah Gauthier, posted a video showing his friend, Brian, driving (ie. moving back) into Leilani Estates like some others who had evacuated west of Pomaikai, because there simply isn't anywhere else they can go and/or don't have the resources to look elsewhere.

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The HUB is looking for pallets to help someone who lost there home in Kapoho and wants to build a pallet house above Hawaiian Sanctuary.

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The site also shared this stunning image taken at dusk of F8 by Joseph Anthony. Does anyone know if he ever got his confiscated camera equipment back after his court date on his trespassing citation back on June 1? I tried to find out online and only came up with accounts of it being taken during when I think he was helping the Civil Beat's live feed homeowners evacuate after officials told them the road was being closed down due to lava and they had to leave. He does some stunning camera work. 

[WestCoastGal]

A new video posted by Gabe (YT H.I.S Survival). Great footage.

And low and behold, Honolulu Civil Beat live cam is still up. Been streaming for 2 hours today. Here's the latest view and the link to the live broadcast.

Live Feed:

 

[WestCoastGal]

Last night!

 

Live feed link:

Just heard from HCB in the live chat that the camera equipment will be picked up around 5pm HST tomorrow so they hope to have it up and running through most of the day tomorrow.

[WestCoastGal]

Ikaika just started his live feed from the HUB. See Philip Ong is there too.

If image is missing just click on ^View on Facebook to see it there.

[WestCoastGal]

To go hand in hand with the CB cam from tonight being probably the best night show I've seen from this location, this was just posted on fb Hawaii Tracker group by Thomas Willemin, a few miles north of Hilo. Thomas was a resident of Leilani Estates on Luana. One of his other posts was included above in this thread.

Another fb Hawaii Tracker group shared this image of the F8 sky tonight:

[WestCoastGal]

Looks like the Sacred Heart Church/HOPE Services "hope" micro units are completed. Still working on the kitchen/dining and shower area. If I was an evacuee who had lost everything, this would be a dream until I could get back on my feet. Just an amazing effort by so many caring people.

[WestCoastGal]

Jack's son is playing the ukulele in the background and Jack just changed the view to tonight's moon rise over the ocean. Nice treat what with the lava colored steam tonight. Jack said a massive cloud is covering the cone area now so we'll view the moon until it clears...in case you tune in and wonder what you are looking at.

And now back to F8 viewing:

[WestCoastGal]

Scott posted a driving video Saturday of Hwy 130 near Leilani and going over the plates on the Hwy. Very interesting experience even via video. 

In case you haven't seen the new thermal cams set up on the highways where cracks had developed (discussed previously in this thread), here's an image from just now.

On Hwy 130 where Scott just drove, you can see where the steam is emanating off to the side of the road. If you want to check back on the Puna Traffic cams yourself here's the link to them: http://ops.punatraffic.com

[WestCoastGal]

As you may already know either from the news or from Ikaika's talk tonight (above) another home was claimed by lava tonight in the Kapoho Beach Lots.

From the thermal map Philip Ong was showing it looks like there is still very hot lava at the edge where now 3 homes were destroyed.

This is the current posted thermal map and the homes are at that far northern tip near the ocean that is show white along the edges. Philip Ong explained that in his talk tonight (above).