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Rooting hormone powder application to soil?

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I have rooting hormone powder and the germinated seed (tiniest seedling of a BENTINCKIA CONDAPANNA) that does not seem to grow fast enough or not grow at all and I want to speed it up a bit. Can I use root hormone powder on its soil, just pour on the soil around the seedling? The problem immersing the seedling's roots into the powder is because the seedling has been in the soil for about a month now and I don't want to disturb it by removing it from the pot.

Composition:

Acido 3-Indolbutirico (AIB) .... 0.4% (p/p)
Acido 1-Naftilacetico (ANA).... 0.4% (p/p)
Captan.................................. 15% (p/p)
(Made in Spain)

 

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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If you want to put something in the soil to promote root growth, I would think that hoof and horn would be more appropriate, thought with palm seedlings, I have found that patience is the best thing. You might also assure that the soil is kept warm, not hot.

 

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6 minutes ago, GDLWyverex said:

If you want to put something in the soil to promote root growth, I would think that hoof and horn would be more appropriate, thought with palm seedlings, I have found that patience is the best thing. You might also assure that the soil is kept warm, not hot.

 

Richard

Seedlings get what they need from the seed. A porous growing medium and the above advice.  

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Thanks for the advise. So no root growth hormone for the seedling I suppose. It has its own Big Bang inside the disappearing seed plus the soil with turf and perlite, but I was wondering if I applied the rooth growth hormone powder to any larger plant already imbedded in soil would it be sufficient to apply the powder to the soil or only to the naked root?

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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If it is made in Spain, of course, will be the best:floor:.

May be your small seedling needs more "feed" and not rooting hormones.

A picture will help.

I have 3 Betinckia condapanna seedlings( thanks Dean for the seeds) and they are fast growers with no special care.

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I mentioned it is made in Spain, because I used Spanish text off the jar, which I am not sure how to translate. In Portugal many goods are from Spain, (gladly) not so many from China. I will make a picture later. The "seedling" is just a short round stick about 3 cm tall and thinnner than a match. It arrived along with other ungerminated seeds from RPS, which means this kind of palm tree was not described by RPS as "germinated" yet one of the seeds seemed to become germinated.

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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Liquid fertilizer at a diluted rate? Just a thought...…..

Jeff

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Fish fertilizer and humic acid is what I use on new arrivals and transplants.  the humic acid supports the beneficial bacteria and is a micronutrient chelator.  The fish fertilizer doesn't burn in my experience and seems to give a bump.  Rooting hormones never did much for me as far as I could tell, but I understand they do work well on some plants when you try to grow a cutting.

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Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

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On 24/06/2018, 19:04:30, Monòver said:

If it is made in Spain, of course, will be the best:floor:.

May be your small seedling needs more "feed" and not rooting hormones.

A picture will help.

I have 3 Betinckia condapanna seedlings( thanks Dean for the seeds) and they are fast growers with no special care.

This is the picture (attached):

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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@SoulofthePlace you are a great palm parent!

But don’t try to hurry germinating seeds or tiny babies from same. @Moose sagely points out that the teensy plant gets most of its nutrients from the seed. I’ve germinated hundreds if not thousands of seeds by now and I’ve found that being a “Jewish Mother” can be wasteful, even deadly.

I say, keep them warm, keep them moist and just wait. And, keep us apprised.

 

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1 hour ago, SoulofthePlace said:

This is the picture (attached):

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Your baby is so cute!

(Coochy coochy . . . . )

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Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

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Follow the @DoomsDaveadvice.

This is a small baby and only needs a warm place, shadow and a little bit of water

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Sorry, the photo is not clear, I will try to make a better photo. This seedling is not my work, as it arrived that way from RPS, already germinated. I think the problem of no grow could be the oversized pot for it?

Thanks Dave, I successfully smuggled the seeds you gave me into the EU, but I promise no snakes and no invasive species came along as the M&Ms they came in were not chewed by anything. The only thing they came in all mixed up by my family (who did not include the identificators), they're in two groups so identifying the seeds will be a challenge. The Customs opened the package, but did not recognise the seeds I suppose or thought they were nuts aong with candy and chocolates.

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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" The use of seed in private gardens is not covered by the EU legislation and private gardeners can continue to buy any plant material and sell their seed in small quantities Moreover, it will be clarified that any non-professional (e.g. private gardeners) can exchange seed with other private gardeners without falling under the rules of the proposed Regulation."

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-13-400_en.htm

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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On ‎6‎/‎26‎/‎2018‎ ‎10‎:‎39‎:‎36‎, DoomsDave said:

@SoulofthePlace you are a great palm parent!

But don’t try to hurry germinating seeds or tiny babies from same. @Moose sagely points out that the teensy plant gets most of its nutrients from the seed. I’ve germinated hundreds if not thousands of seeds by now and I’ve found that being a “Jewish Mother” can be wasteful, even deadly.

I say, keep them warm, keep them moist and just wait. And, keep us apprised.

 

Nudging those seedlings, then chicken soup? Oye you didn't :D

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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45 minutes ago, Moose said:

Nudging those seedlings, then chicken soup? Oye you didn't :D

OY!

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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9 hours ago, SoulofthePlace said:

Sorry, the photo is not clear, I will try to make a better photo. This seedling is not my work, as it arrived that way from RPS, already germinated. I think the problem of no grow could be the oversized pot for it?

If I think a seedling could have problems I always use a pot as SMALL :greenthumb: as possible. So I can easily correct any mistakes like overwatering :sick: etc.

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My photos at flickr: flickr.com/photos/palmeir/albums

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Live and learn, sometimes make the same mistakes again. I had Copernicia glabrescens var. ramossissima germinate after a few weeks under day temps of around 56C (132F), which is in those large nursery planters covered with plexiglass.

I must admit I do not desinfect the seeds or soil and don't do any soil testing yet (too complicated or ignorant). Only let hot water run over the seeds for a while. Testing the soil (as in acidity) and making my own correct soil would prove too expensive and complicated. Unless done for survival or income. I make my soil from (3 ingredients): potting bagged soil from a store, turf and perlite, sometimes add some ocean bottom soil (grey) with fragments of seashells.

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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Update: over a month later... and the BENTINCKIA CONDAPANNA has not grown at all, but hasn't declined either. The seeds of the same have not germinated either.

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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Today's updated photo of the BC seedling that has not grown much. Perhaps it is not a BC? The quality of SONY DSC-F717 camera ($1000) which does not seem to be able to take upclose photos and has some other issues since new. Think it looks bigger now?

DSC06009.JPG

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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17 hours ago, SoulofthePlace said:

Today's updated photo of the BC seedling that has not grown much. Perhaps it is not a BC? The quality of SONY DSC-F717 camera ($1000) which does not seem to be able to take upclose photos and has some other issues since new. Think it looks bigger now?

DSC06009.JPG

I am sure there are special settings on the device for close range shootings. Usually the real or iconic button to initilize thos settings has as symbol drawing of either a flower or a document.

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On ‎6‎/‎27‎/‎2018‎ ‎3‎:‎44‎:‎59‎, DoomsDave said:

OY!

B)

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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