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Posted

Has anyone had any luck growing Carpoxylon macrospermum on the west coast?

I've only seen photographs, but it has to be one of the most beautiful palm trees ever.

ashton

Posted

Ashton,

I asked a similar question a while back. Seems like a number of guys grow them in unheated greenhouses with absolutely no problems. Do not know of one in the ground yet though. These MAY not be as cold intolerant as first believed. Time will tell. I plan on getting some first hand experience myself...

Bret

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

Posted

Sure sign of carpoxyloniation happening here :D

Here's my reason for carpoxyloniate intent. 3 amigos biding their time.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

I grabbed 8 seedlings as soon as I saw how El Hoagie's two-leafer looked after last winter - mind you, he kept it in an unheated coldframe

I get by with a little help from my fronds

Posted

Dear wal,

the picture of the seedling or sapling was very nice,i hope in few months time my little palms seedling will grow to that height.

Nice photos & keep it coming.  :)

Love,

Kris.

love conquers all..

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Posted

I am not too well versed on palming "West Coast" style, but other palms from Vanuatu seem to live over there such as V. arecina and joannis. Here is what I know about COLD hardiness:

-One died at 25F exposed to full sun (and frost) overnight that  was about 5 feet tall in Central FL.

-A 4 leaf seedling was slightly burnt after seeing upper 20s in a protected location in interior SW FL.

-Larger specimens have seen upper 20s and recovered rather easily. If I had to jump to conclusions, I would say 28F is a breaking point for this plant. This is definitely not ultratropical.

Christian Faulkner

Venice, Florida - South Sarasota County.

www.faulknerspalms.com

 

Μολὼν λάβε

Posted

Wow!  If that turns out to be true here in CA, that is really good news.  I guess I'll be relieving Jungle Music of a few this weekend then....It's gotta be done man! :;):

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

They grow faster than I would have expected.

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

Posted

(cfkingfish @ Jul. 28 2006,11:55)

QUOTE
I am not too well versed on palming "West Coast" style, but other palms from Vanuatu seem to live over there such as V. arecina and joannis.

The Carpoxylon seedling I had in my coldframe over the winter looked better after the winter than the V. arecina seedlings right next to it.  My coldframe never dropped below about 4C (40F), but it can be pretty cool in there, especially on cloudy days.  I think it's a promising palm to be tolerant of cool west coast winters.

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

Posted

....OHHHH PREACH IT BROTHER!!!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

You Californians have definitely gotta try these by the truckload. They look more promising than ........than..........than..........[ah someone else complete this statement]

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Washingtonias??? :P

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

(bgl @ Jul. 28 2006,16:33)

QUOTE
Washingtonias??? :P

BZZZZ!! Wrong !, Now you all get to pick someone else from the board to complete the statement.

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Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Wal,

How'd you do that composite?

Ray

Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10A

Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA

subtropical USDA Zone 10B

Posted

Wal, you are hilarious!

 San Francisco Bay Area, California

Zone 10a

Posted

These palms grow extremly well for us ,here in S. Fla. Years ago when I bought my first one, I soon realized how beautiful and special it was . It is now in my top 10 favorites !

   I really hope many of you in Southern Calif. try these, and have good success with them. Maybe close to the water would fair better than inland.  With all of it's beauty and tropical appeal, it's well worth trying. Hopefully, we will see some pic.'s posted in the near future.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

(Wal @ Jul. 28 2006,16:31)

QUOTE
You Californians have definitely gotta try these by the truckload. They look more promising than ........than..........than..........[ah someone else complete this statement]

Syagrus romanceyourpanceoff?

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

Posted

CORRECT answer Zac. Have another turn.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Hmmm. I can't think of any other over used palm really other that the Cocos plumosa and the Washy robusta..... And how is this game played anyways. ???

:)

Zac

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

Posted

(Wal @ Jul. 28 2006,16:31)

QUOTE
You Californians have definitely gotta try these by the truckload. They look more promising than ........than..........than..........[ah someone else complete this statement]

Lepidorrachis Mooreana?

:o

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Here's a young Carpoxylon macrospermum taken over a year ago at Pauleen Sullivan's Kapoho palm garden.  At least it gives you an idea of how it looks as a young palm just beginning to form trunk and growing in an open sunny location.

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Posted

Ashton,

In the heading you wrote "I only want one. Or two.". Yep, that's how it begins. For me it actually began with THREE little seedlings from Floribunda about ten years ago, then a few more...., and a few more.... And before you know it, things are clearly out of control! :D  Here are a few of mine.

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

And a close-up of one with a newly exposed crownshaft.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Another Carpoxylon macrospermum on Hawaii Island.  Yes, they are beautiful, aren't they?  I'd like to see one with a fully grown trunk but that's next to impossible almost anywhere except for a few at an isolated spot on Vanuatu.

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Hawaii Island (Big Island), leeward coast, 19 degrees N. latitude, south Kona mauka at approx. 380m (1,250 ft.) and about 1.6 km (1-mile) upslope from ocean.

 

No record of a hurricane passing over this island (yet!).  

Summer maximum rainfall - variable averaging 900-1150mm (35-45") - Perfect drainage on black volcanic rocky soil.  

Nice sunsets!

Posted

(Al in Kona @ Jul. 29 2006,21:47)

QUOTE
Another Carpoxylon macrospermum on Hawaii Island.  Yes, they are beautiful, aren't they?  I'd like to see one with a fully grown trunk but that's next to impossible almost anywhere except for a few at an isolated spot on Vanuatu.

That is an intersting pont Al. WHo has the largest one OUTSIDE of Vanuatu?

Zac

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

Posted

Just love um!! Can't get enough.....

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

Are all the recently available seed coming from a few trees in Vanuatu?

Trinidad!  Southernmost island in the Caribbean.

So many plants, So little space.

Posted

(bgl @ Jul. 29 2006,20:25)

QUOTE
And a close-up of one with a newly exposed crownshaft.

Wow!  My mouth was opened and drueling for about 20 seconds at the site of this palm.  I want one... must have it...

Posted

(Trinidad! Bob @ Jul. 31 2006,05:56)

QUOTE
Are all the recently available seed coming from a few trees in Vanuatu?

Trind. Bob,

  Yes they are. Yahoooooo!! Start planting :D

Bigfrond,

    You seem a little excited ?  Give it a try.

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Posted

they seem to be the new "latest thing" in so cal,but most people i've talked to about it are saying for coastal areas only.anyone have any thoughts on this? i wanna

try it but live about 10 miles inland.

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

Paul, I'll let you know.  I just picked one up yesterday.  Oh, yeah!!!  Although I'm sure it will live several years in my cold frame.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Matt- did you get that slick willie too?

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Yep!  But, I think it's a D. nauseosa, previously known as 'Bef'.  Slick Willy is a medium sized clumper from what I understand.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

Matt,

nauseosa and 'bef' are two different palms. D. nauseosa is a single trunked, fairly robust, palm that was sold as D. ceracea a few years ago. Dypsis sp. bef is a more delicate palm, and it's suckering. I have a few, typically with 3-4 stems, each about 3 inches thick at the base (I'm estimating from memory - it's dark and I don't feel like going outside to double-check! :)

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Yeah, what Bo said!  :)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Matty B, where did you get your Carpoxylon macrospermum?  Any size to it?  I'd be interested to try a few in a certain corner of my garden.  But I don't want to wait 20 years for size.

bgl and Al in Kona, your photos piqued my interest.  What is the approximate diameter at the base of the larger palms?

Thanks all--

Kim

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Posted

Kim,

Diameter at the base of the one in Post 25 is 20 inches/50 cm.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Just to add a pic from FTG from this year.

A fabulous green trunk

Carpoxylon%20mac.jpg%20re.jpg

kev

Zone 8b

Central UK

Average min over last 5 years -5.1 C

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