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Hyophorbes do grow in coastal north San Diego County


Tracy

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After seeing the post of the very nice Hyophorbe at the home on the recent Palm Society of So Cal tour, I thought I would share some photos of others in coastal north county in close proximity to the beach.  I saw a post indicating surprise that they grow here, but I have been growing them for years in Carlsbad, and a neighbor in Leucadia has some nice specimens up the hill from me.  As long as you don't plant your Hyophorbe lagenicaulis or verschaffeltii in the shade they do fine.  Hyophorbe indica can handle a decent amount of shade and tends to burn in full sun even here on the coast in my experience.  My laguenicalis and indica's have been in the ground about a decade and are 3 years older now than pictured, so quite a bit bigger.  While my H laguenicalis doesn't get full sun, it is next to a south facing wall which collects heat and helps; it probably would be bigger with more sun.  I'm not sure when my Leucadia neighbor planted his lagenicaulis and verschaffeltii, but they were good size the first time I walked by in 2010.  I'm sure there are many from this genus growing within a half mile of the ocean all up and down the coast of San Diego.  I presume the same is true in Southern California's Orange & LA County coastal areas as well.   Post photos of others growing in these regions.

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H indica can burn easily but of all the Hyophorbe grown, indica is the rainforest palm. The others come from more open forest and need more sun to look good.

Thanks for posting the pics.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Congrats on the success. Such a beautiful palm and as I have found out. Easy to germinate from seed as well!

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Here in south Orange County in CA about 10 miles from the Pacific, one has to make a distinction between H. laguenicalis and H.   verschaffeltii. I brought in a huge Bottle Palm (7' overall height) from FL , planted it in full sun, surrounded by asphalt (street) and concrete (driveway) and it was dead in 3 years. I even threw frost cloth over it during our cool 38 degree winter nights. My Spindle palm (brought in at the same time and size), planted a few feet away, never skipped a beat and has continued to perform beautifully for over ten years now.

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On 7/24/2018, 6:08:37, Mangosteen said:

I brought in a huge Bottle Palm (7' overall height) from FL , planted it in full sun, surrounded by asphalt (street) and concrete (driveway) and it was dead in 3 years.

Hard to say what went wrong.  Next time I'm in the backyard of the Carlsbad house I'll get a current photo of my H. laguenicaulis.  Here is another H laguenicaulis just a block away from me in Leucadia which is doing well after 3  years.  It faces south, while straight across the street there is one planted at the same time, floundering with a northerly exposure.

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They also do pretty good in the Arizona desert.Here's a bottle I put in from an HD 3 gallon about 15 years ago.It is getting a few flower spathes in que for next spring.

 

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Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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And here is a spindle palm I grew from seed.

 

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Mesa, Arizona

 

Temps between 29F and 115F each year

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6 hours ago, Tracy said:

Hard to say what went wrong.  Next time I'm in the backyard of the Carlsbad house I'll get a current photo of my H. laguenicaulis.  Here is another H laguenicaulis just a block away from me in Leucadia which is doing well after 3  years.  It faces south, while straight across the street there is one planted at the same time, floundering with a northerly exposure.

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The photo reminds me of my Bottle around the third year. When mine arrived from FL in the spring it had 4 nice green fronds and a spear. The next spring it was down to 3 nice fronds and a spear. The following spring it was down to 2 nice fronds and a spear, etc., etc. until the palm had no fronds and a spear. The next winter, the spear pulled out. 

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11 hours ago, Mangosteen said:

 

The photo reminds me of my Bottle around the third year. When mine arrived from FL in the spring it had 4 nice green fronds and a spear. The next spring it was down to 3 nice fronds and a spear. The following spring it was down to 2 nice fronds and a spear, etc., etc. until the palm had no fronds and a spear. The next winter, the spear pulled out. 

The one across the street from this one looks as you described over the last 3 years.  I knew it wouldn't make it as soon as it was planted.  This one however is doing just fine and is holding the same number of fronds as when it was planted.  It did go through an initial planting shock the first year, but bounced back.  It does get a little ratty around the edges in late winter, but that isn't a big surprise.  I don't remember the exact year I planted the H. lagenicaulis I have in Carlsbad, but it was probably 2009 or 2010 and its still plugging along albeit slowly.

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