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group of D. fine leaf. These produce fine leaved seedlings.

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Brod

Brisbane, Australia

28 latitude, sub tropical

summer average 21c min - 29c max

winter average 10c min - 21c max

extremes at my place 5c - 42c

1100 average rainfall

Posted

I would say the difference in these 2 palms is greater that the difference between D.prestoiana and D. robusta.

There are other groups of D. madagacariensis types in these gardens which are different again. That is another story.

Cheers

Brod

Palms are the king of trees

Brod

Brisbane, Australia

28 latitude, sub tropical

summer average 21c min - 29c max

winter average 10c min - 21c max

extremes at my place 5c - 42c

1100 average rainfall

Posted

I have 3 D. madagascariensis and I have 1 D. mahajanga. They seem to be different. Both types clump, but the mahajanga seems to have finer leaflets.

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Posted

Dypsis madagascariensis is just a highly variable species, I'm sure.

There are at least 8 different varieties growing in Oz that I'm aware of. They are all unique in some way.

The large single variety known here as 'lucubensis' has a swollen base, and a much sturdier trunk than all of the other varieties.

There are several single trunk varieties that are not 'lucubensis', and several clustering varieties. There is a variety which is very white and waxy, with pink spears, along with the varieties Brod mentioned.

There are a few different varieties growing at Mt Coot-tha Botanical Gardens.

Here is another one, this is a sturdy multi-trunk variety, with stems more than 12" thick.

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Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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Daryl, I agree with you at the 8 or so different D madagascariensis variants. I have the single one with white waxy petioles and pink new spear, as well as one with the common though not accepted name of D lucubensis, and then there's D sp diego, and a few others with differences.

I'm thinking that it is possible that seed collectors in Madagascar may come across some seed of a species that loosely resembles the description of D madagascariensis, and for various reasons, possibly paperwork reasons, just call it Dypsis madagascariensis. If that happens, then many different maybe new species enter cultivation with noone realising what they have until the plants get quite large. By then, everyone's forgotten the details of where the seed came from etc.

But at the end of the day, I'm happy I can grow them.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Posted

Wonderful and informative reporting Brod and Daryl. These palms don't have a great rep for good looks. When younger they are sometimes regarded as ugly ducklings but later they look quite magnificent as older plants. There's a nurseryman up the sunshine coast refers to the Lucubensis form as "Grey Cane palms".

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

Wal, that's funny, back in the late 70's in Darwin we referred to them by the same name.

Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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At the nursery I do a bit of work at, my boss has adopted the Darwin name, "Grey Palm", and I hate it. It doesn't describe it at all, and what an unflattering colour IMO.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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