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Dypsis ID help please.

Ken Johnson

By Ken Johnson
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joe_OC Grand Master

joe_OC

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I would say D. albofarinosa 

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Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

Neil C Mentor

Neil C

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I'd guess albofarinosa as well. The way the ends of the leaflets droop down and the overall colour would point to this species.

Regards Neil

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quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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The leaf bases are a lot more fuzzy than the albofarinosas I’ve grown, although mine are admittedly somewhat smaller. This palm just looks much more colorful to me. Interestingly, I’ve got a recently acquired (small) psamophylla, that also has that very colorful look. 

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

joe_OC Grand Master

joe_OC

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I considered D psammofila, but it has a really small diameter trunk.  Ken’s palm has a much more robust trunk on it.  

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

Brett in Mission Viejo Proficient

Brett in Mission Viejo

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Could be one of those Baronii complex hybrids. Nice charactistics whatever is! 

 

Mission Viejo, CA

Limited coastal influence

5-10 days of frost

IPS and PSSC Member

Matt in OC Grand Master

Matt in OC

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Given its culture I wonder if slick willy/bef is the correct ID. 

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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Slick willy has a heel.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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Looking at it again, looks an awful like an upright onilihensis I’ve got in my yard. It’s also been confused as sp. “bef” / slick Willy before & is pretty robust.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

steve99 Mentor

steve99

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7 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

Slick willy has a heel.

Are you sure?

joe_OC Grand Master

joe_OC

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58 minutes ago, steve99 said:

Are you sure?

Yup...All my Slick Willy’s have a heel.  There is also less spacing space between leaflets on the fronds.  This palm has a lot of spacing between leaflets.  

Whatever it is, it is pretty.  

Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

Missi Grand Master

Missi

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What's the palm to the very right? A Hydriastele?

Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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@Ken Johnson! So good to hear from you again!

The pictured palm looks like a Dypsis onilahensis “upright” type because: (a) of the sideways twist of the outer ends of the leaves; (b) the relatively robust trunks; and (c) the grey white glaucous color of the trunks. The best ID will be when it blooms and sets seeds. 

Dypsis albofarinosa seems to be a lot skinnier in the trunks.

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LJG Grand Master

LJG

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Not Bef for sure. Bef has a heal, doesn’t sucker like this palm did (bef splits), has no petiole and is made up of closely-spaced leaflets. No Albofarinosa either. My first guess was one of the many different palms going around as an Onily - like others have guessed here. 

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Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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3 hours ago, steve99 said:

Are you sure?

Never seen or heard of one without. 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Matt in OC Grand Master

Matt in OC

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I defer to others on this, but wouldn't a palm at that size lose the heel by then?

NatureGirl Grand Master

NatureGirl

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Did that palm bifurcate or was it planted as a double? That may help w/ID.

Warrior Palm Princess, Satellite Beach, Florida

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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In keeping with @NatureGirl's observations, I'd say that's two single palms planted close together in one pot. Some "Onies" are single trunk, but I'm starting to think that one's something else, too.

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richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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I think growing conditions could be a significant factor here.  It (or they) could look quite different after 12 months planted in Californian soil...

palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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7 hours ago, Missi said:

What's the palm to the very right? A Hydriastele?

Yes, Hydriastele beguinii

 

-Randy

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steve99 Mentor

steve99

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13 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

Never seen or heard of one without. 

 

My slick willy doesn't have a heel.

 

irLsC0u.jpg

 

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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By that age probably gone..

Sweet looking palm though!

 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Tracy Grand Master

Tracy

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17 hours ago, steve99 said:

irLsC0u.jpg

 

Very nice looking.  I have a small D bef, which split (posted in a string on "splitting") and it definitely has a heel.  It also has visibly close leaflet spacing like yours posted above, but unlike the one Ken posted and is in question.

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

TomJ Experienced

TomJ

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It's beautiful whatever it is.

I would just buy it and plant it.

In 5 years time bump this post.

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