What is your current yard temperature?

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, Palm Sundae said:

Friday and Saturday in the books. Partly cloudy tomorrow = no 100. Easing into Fall from here. 😍

" Easing  into Fall "    ...at the pace of an extremely slow snail, lol..   Maybe we'll get there by  ...November?? 😁

[UK_Palms]

Temperatures have reached 26.7C / 80F here on Saturday, however to my northeast it looks like Weybridge and Addlestone in Surrey saw up to 28C / 82F.

 

The radiosonde balloon at Camborne, Cornwall has recorded 18.8C hPa isotherms at 1.5km aloft around midday. However the 20C isotherm (hPa) has since been breached in southwest England overnight.

 

It was up to 22C / 72F at midnight in parts of Ireland.

 

25C+ temps are being reported indoors tonight at midnight. In October. Even with all my bedroom windows open and a fan going, it was still 24.7C in my bedroom at midnight last night. We are going to have to start putting air conditioning into houses now moving forward, especially for the summers. London City airport was reporting a temperature of 19C / 66F at midnight. Cromer in Norfolk was reporting 20C / 68F at midnight.

 

Edited October 8, 2023 by UK_Palms

[JohnAndSancho]

It's been high 80s during the day and 50s at night here. Last night it got down to 41. Football on TV, windows open, going to try to make chicken tortilla soup from scratch. 

[Foxpalms]

Sat: Min of 60f/15.5c with a max of 77.5f/25.2c.

Sun: Min of 59.9f max of 78.8f/26c with 44% humidity. The 850hpa temps aren't quite as high as expected over London and the sky hasn't been completed clear. If the sky is crystal clear tomorrow the temps could easily reach 27c+. Palms are still growing at a good rate even ones that like the heat such as the sabals and syagrus. Three more days of good weather before a cold front hits and the temps will drop.

Edited October 9, 2023 by Foxpalms

[UK_Palms]

Max of 27.1C / 80F here on Sunday.

 

There have been a few wildfires in my county in recent days. The main one being at Elstead Common, which is about 4 miles southwest of my location.

There has been no rainfall here yet this month. I am now at 11 days since my last measurable rainfall. The chart below shows a collection of Met stations (about 1/3 of total) and their rainfall % for this month so far. Very dry in southern England, but very wet in central Scotland.

It is currently 23.6C / 74F at midday today with many places looking at a 25C / 77F max. Change is coming however, but just how much cooler it gets is still yet to be clarified. It will probably be a shock to the system after so much warmth this autumn so far.

Edited October 9, 2023 by UK_Palms

[JohnAndSancho]

[UK_Palms]

Max of 27.1C / 80F on Monday with wall to wall sunshine, followed by a max of 25.2C / 77F on Tuesday as well. Quite exceptional values as we head into mid-October now.

While yesterday was a bit cooler than previous days, we have now had 4 consecutive days where the temperature has officially exceeded 25C / 77F in multiple locations. This last happened in October 1959!

The average maximum temperature at Manston, Kent for the first 10 days of October is 22.8C / 73F. For me here, my average October max is running at 23.1C / 74F, which is higher than the first 10 days of August even!

Change is on the way however. The first proper arctic plunge is coming with temperatures likely dropping below average by the weekend. Likely low single digit minimums overnight, potentially.

 

Edited October 11, 2023 by UK_Palms

[JohnAndSancho]

We def need this rain. I've been here since the end of July and this is the first measurable rain I've seen 

[Arecaceus]

Another week of sunny summerly weather has passed. Like September, Ocotober has been very dry so far. Yesterday eventually we got some good amount of rain throughout the day, some even this morning before it cleared up with hazy skies. Today's high was 25.3°C with a low of 18.0°C this morning. ☀️🌡️🌴

[Silas_Sancona]

After a " sleep with the window open " low of 59F,  on the way to about 90 this afternoon as some high clouds roll in..

"nother bump into the low 100s Sunday - Monday   ...and on Tuesday ..-if that suggested 99 gets bumped a deg or two up by then.. )  ...then, back to warm, but fairly typical October heat / seasonally pleasant evenings.



Local weather gets a " good to go " check mark for tomorrow morning's Eclipse viewing..

No rain chances in the forecast just yet, but,  ...that may change as the home stretch of October arrives.  

[sandgroper]

Currently 17c at 7.15am heading for a sunny top of 32c.

[Palm Sundae]

6 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

"nother bump into the low 100s Sunday - Monday   ...and on Tuesday ..-if that suggested 99 gets bumped a deg or two up by then.. )  ...

Congrats on summer being over were evidently premature. 😆

There have been enough nice days though. I have relatives that have trouble believing highs in the upper 80's are nice, oh well....

[Silas_Sancona]

12 minutes ago, Palm Sundae said:

Congrats on summer being over were evidently premature. 😆

There have been enough nice days though. I have relatives that have trouble believing highs in the upper 80's are nice, oh well....

😂 for sure...  Agree, even with the few 100-103F days tossed into the forecast lately,  not bad.. plants are enjoying some heat ...that doesn't roast them.. My Peppers are finally looking  -good- ..and flowering again..  Hopefully i'll get a few peppers before it cools off too much for them to ripen.

Agree, It is funny how some folks don't quite understand your last sentence..  Maybe have them out when it is 110+ and it only drops to 85- 92F at night.. Bet they'll understand why temps that only reach the mid / upper 80s are cherished, haha.  If only it would stay that reasonable -all summer. One can wish, right?

[sandgroper]

2 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

😂 for sure...  Agree, even with the few 100-103F days tossed into the forecast lately,  not bad.. plants are enjoying some heat ...that doesn't roast them.. My Peppers are finally looking  -good- ..and flowering again..  Hopefully i'll get a few peppers before it cools off too much for them to ripen.

Agree, It is funny how some folks don't quite understand your last sentence..  Maybe have them out when it is 110+ and it only drops to 85- 92F at night.. Bet they'll understand why temps that only reach the mid / upper 80s are cherished, haha.  If only it would stay that reasonable -all summer. One can wish, right?

Having spent many years in the north west of Western Australia I completely understand what you are saying. That's why I only visit there now for holidays, I got sick of constant high temperatures. 

[Silas_Sancona]

9 minutes ago, sandgroper said:

Having spent many years in the north west of Western Australia I completely understand what you are saying. That's why I only visit there now for holidays, I got sick of constant high temperatures. 

Agree, this year was rough for sure and i'll be happy to be out of the desert / back where it rarely exceeds the low 100s for more than a few days -at most- during the summer  when that time comes. 

Was reading a story that -more than likely- will confirm my gut feeling  as it related to heat- related deaths this year..  We're already over 350 confirmed deaths, with another 238 or so still in the process of being determined, which ..if all of those follow the same determination of those deemed official, would put us well over 500 ..for just this past summer..  Last year was a record, at 425, and it wasn't near as hot as this year. Completely crazy and imagine there will be some big changes ahead for how people here live through future extreme summers that are just as hot, ...or hotter,  than this year.. 

More parks around the valley / state are closing their gates when heat warnings are issued, and deciding to close earlier in the day / re-open later in the evenings, ...if at all on those days..   Possible that in the near-er future, most construction- related work will be strictly relegated to winter, spring, and fall with summers being when most projects are shifted to either overnight work ( why they aren't already -for the most part anyway, i couldn't tell you ), or work is completely stopped mid June - about mid-September. 

Yes, the urban heat island effect here and in Tucson plays a part in the heat, but, even many of the smaller towns in the wide open, barely built up areas in S. AZ experienced some pretty unprecedented heat this year, as did places up north in the mountains like Flagstaff..   When they're experiencing a stretch of highs flirting with 100F, morning lows at/ above 70-75, there's a problem. No heat island effect in a city that sits at 7,000ft. lol

All that said, summers, like 2021, ...where the " typical " stretch of late spring / start of summer intense heat was quickly followed by moderated heat, and frequent enough rain,  which helped keep a lid on the heat for a majority of the rest of the summer, was about as perfect as anyone can ask for here..  Was still hot of course,  ..but nowhere like this year. 

 

[sandgroper]

35 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Agree, this year was rough for sure and i'll be happy to be out of the desert / back where it rarely exceeds the low 100s for more than a few days -at most- during the summer  when that time comes. 

Was reading a story that -more than likely- will confirm my gut feeling  as it related to heat- related deaths this year..  We're already over 350 confirmed deaths, with another 238 or so still in the process of being determined, which ..if all of those follow the same determination of those deemed official, would put us well over 500 ..for just this past summer..  Last year was a record, at 425, and it wasn't near as hot as this year. Completely crazy and imagine there will be some big changes ahead for how people here live through future extreme summers that are just as hot, ...or hotter,  than this year.. 

More parks around the valley / state are closing their gates when heat warnings are issued, and deciding to close earlier in the day / re-open later in the evenings, ...if at all on those days..   Possible that in the near-er future, most construction- related work will be strictly relegated to winter, spring, and fall with summers being when most projects are shifted to either overnight work ( why they aren't already -for the most part anyway, i couldn't tell you ), or work is completely stopped mid June - about mid-September. 

Yes, the urban heat island effect here and in Tucson plays a part in the heat, but, even many of the smaller towns in the wide open, barely built up areas in S. AZ experienced some pretty unprecedented heat this year, as did places up north in the mountains like Flagstaff..   When they're experiencing a stretch of highs flirting with 100F, morning lows at/ above 70-75, there's a problem. No heat island effect in a city that sits at 7,000ft. lol

All that said, summers, like 2021, ...where the " typical " stretch of late spring / start of summer intense heat was quickly followed by moderated heat, and frequent enough rain,  which helped keep a lid on the heat for a majority of the rest of the summer, was about as perfect as anyone can ask for here..  Was still hot of course,  ..but nowhere like this year. 

 

We are luckier than you over there as the warmest parts of our state are generally sparsely populated so the number deaths due to extreme heat are limited. They mostly occur with travellers not properly prepared for travelling in remote areas and with limited knowledge on what they are getting themselves into. It's important to let people know where your headed, how long you expect to take and which route you're taking. As spectacular as some of these places are they're not worth dying for. Really makes you appreciate just how tough the early settlers were, no air con back then, they were gutsy people for sure!

[Foxpalms]

Min of 61f/16c with a max of 70f/21.1c yesterday with 70% humidity. Yesterday was pretty sunny however there was a wall of cloud and rain 20 miles west of here. This morning the temps have massively dropped as a cold front has came through. 2c 850hpa temps compared to yesterdays 13c. gfs run is showing -4c 850hpa temps in a few days, so the lows will drop down to around 7c that day.

Edited October 14, 2023 by Foxpalms

[Silas_Sancona]

9 minutes ago, sandgroper said:

We are luckier than you over there as the warmest parts of our state are generally sparsely populated so the number deaths due to extreme heat are limited. They mostly occur with travellers not properly prepared for travelling in remote areas and with limited knowledge on what they are getting themselves into. It's important to let people know where your headed, how long you expect to take and which route you're taking. As spectacular as some of these places are they're not worth dying for. Really makes you appreciate just how tough the early settlers were, no air con back then, they were gutsy people for sure!

..Or perhaps smarter??  lol ( Majority of people there living closer to the coasts, rather than trying to aggressively settle / build big cities in the hottest parts of the country ) 

Agree, some remarkable places to explore out in the desert here too, but not during the hottest part of the year,  and not unless prepared / well aware of what hazards there are, even during the cooler months ( can still experience dehydration while hiking on a 78F afternoon in March. )

 

[UK_Palms]

Max of 22.2C / 72F here on Friday, however it is much, much cooler today as the cold front has finally hit. Currently 13.7C / 57F at midday.

Thursday night into Friday was exceptionally mild with nighttime lows of 17C / 63F for many southern places, whereas last night was my coldest night since May with temperatures dropping down to 5C / 43F under clear skies and this cold front. Tonight will be even colder. Widespread frost for Scotland, away from the coastal areas. Probably only 8C / 46F minimums in the most protected parts of London and the south coast. Winter is coming though.

 

While the days will be much cooler now, the nights still look very mild in Cornwall lol. Double digit minimums still. Chance of something much warmer again later next weekend and towards the end of the month, with a return to 20C+ temperatures again. Fingers crossed.

Edited October 14, 2023 by UK_Palms

[Foxpalms]

Min of 43f/6.1c under clear skies last night with 85% humidity. Max of 55f/12.7c with 44% humidity and a 29f dewpoint.  The 850hpa temp is currently -4c thanks to the Jetstream bringing air from 70N's. The urban heat island in London is being shown again tonight. Whilst the country side is in the mid to low 30s its currently 46f here at 1am. 

 

 

 

[kinzyjr]

27 minutes ago, Foxpalms said:

Min of 43f/6.1c under clear skies last night with 85% humidity. Max of 55f/12.7c with 44% humidity and a 29f dewpoint.  The 850hpa temp is currently -4c thanks to the Jetstream bringing air from 70N's. The urban heat island in London is being shown again tonight. Whilst the country side is in the mid to low 30s its currently 46f here at 1am. 

UHI almost eliminates the early season cool snaps.  That snapshot demonstrates why deciduous trees start leafing a few weeks early and lose their leaves a few weeks later near metro areas.

[UK_Palms]

I’m getting smashed here again and it’s only mid-October. First frost has come 6-7 weeks earlier than last year for me. Far from ideal. We have gone from record high hPa temperatures to almost record low hPa temperatures in the space of a week, combined with clear skies all night long, zero wind, no urban heat island, no coastal influence etc. A recipe for disaster in my location.

Currently 0C / 32F at 1am. So it’s not looking good bruv.

Central London is about 7-8C / 46F in the most protected spots.

No surprise that bloody spot on the far east Kent is holding out well. Ridiculous moderation for the location. 8-9C / 47F around Kingsgate.

 

Folkestone in Kent around 6C / 43F due to coastal influence. Go inland a few miles and it is one of the coldest places in the British Isles tonight under this current setup.

Brighton holding out at 5-6C / 43F with a population of about 400,000 people in the metropolitan area, plus coastal influence.

Portsmouth about 7C / 45F. Big UHI influence there with about a million people in the metropolitan area, plus coastal influence.

Ventnor and eastern Isle of Wight 8-9C / 47F away from inland areas.

Swanage flexing its microclimate as well tonight. 9C / 48F by the coast there.

Torquay, a notorious mild spot in coastal Devon. Holding out at around 10-11C / 51F.

The microclimates on the south coast are very noticeable tonight. Some areas are significantly warmer than others. Many spots that are 12C warmer than my location right now!!! Start Bay, Devon shown here.

Southwest Cornwall and Falmouth area. Mildest spots are 11-12C / 53F.

Isles of Scilly running at a balmy 12-13C / 55F. Worlds apart from where I am.

I only have myself to blame for not moving to a milder area. I have been saying I am going to do it for years now. The temperature disparity between my location and these will be even greater come sunrise! 🙄

[Foxpalms]

14 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

UHI almost eliminates the early season cool snaps.  That snapshot demonstrates why deciduous trees start leafing a few weeks early and lose their leaves a few weeks later near metro areas.

The deciduous trees here are still green, whilst in the outskirts they are mostly green but starting to loose their leaves. The UHI can also mean sometimes we get daffodils coming up as early as late December during a warmer spell. Central London has an extremely dense urban heat island so the difference in temp can vary quite a lot in small distances depending on the areas density and distance to large green areas. The river also helps warm certain areas. It was interesting to asses the damage on 9b plants (ones which were exposed to the open sky) after last years coldest winter night since the 1980's. Mayfair for example next to green park the 9b plants had a bit of frost burn whilst 3 streets away from the park they were undamaged. The temp next to the park was 26-27f vs 28-30f a few streets away from any large green spaces. A perfect example here, a weather station setup in the middle of a park vs one in a garden right next to the river.

[sandgroper]

Currently 29c at 10.00am heading for a top of 36c.

[Foxpalms]

@UK_Palms That's unfortunate that you are getting a frost night this early in the year, hopefully this winter is more normal than the last. The south west currently has cloud cover at the moment however even under clear skies the temps aren't likely going to drop below 5c in Torquay and 10c on the Isles of Scilly. Taking into consideration everything temps, humidity, sunshine hours, annual rainfall. I have spent quite a lot of time looking at different microclimates in the UK and In my opinion the best places in the UK to live for growing Palms would be in no particular order, Broadstairs, Ventnor, Shanklin, Portsmouth/Southsea, Sandbanks, Selsey, Bembridge, Isle of Portland,  Lyme regis, Beer,  Sheerness, Seaton, Sidmouth, Paingnton/Torquay, Brixham, Salcombe, Hope Cove, Kingsand, Portwrinkle, Downderry, Looe, Polperro, Polruan,  Mevagissey, Portmellon, Gorran Haven, Portloe, Portscatho, St Mawes, Falmouth, Porthallow, Porthoustock, Coverack, Cadgwith, Lizzard, Mullion Cove, Porthlevon, Praa sands, Perranuthnoe, Marazion/St Michaels Mount, Penzance area, Porthcurno, Sennen Cove area, St Ives, Carbis Bay, Hayle, Portreath, Perranporth, Newquay, Shoreham beach, Isles of Scilly and Central London. In all of these places if a microclimate was created in the garden, Archontophoenix cunnighamiana, Howea forsteriana,  Rhopalostylis sapia and syagrus romanzoffiana should be ok.

[UK_Palms]

This is getting embarrassing for me. -0.7C / 31F here now at 3am. It could be a date record low for 16th October here.

Falmouth harbour in Cornwall is +13C now, so about 14C warmer than my location. So that is about 29F warmer, which is just ridiculous. Cloud cover or not, I don’t care. They just don’t get frosts there. Falmouth is only about 200 miles southwest of my location as the bird flies too.

The Scilly Isles look like they are getting milder as the night progresses. They have 0C hPa isotherms overhead and still +13C at ground level at 3am there. Nowhere on planet earth can be that mild under the same ‘cold’ synoptics.

 

By sunrise these places are going to be at least 15C / 30F warmer than my location! My location has been exposed badly again tonight for how poorly it does on cold nights.

[sandgroper]

Still 30c at 7.00pm and only half way through spring. Cooling down over the next few days fortunately, not ready for the warm weather yet.

[Silas_Sancona]

90F at 10:06Am ..on the way to another 100-103F by 3..  .. 98-102F theme continues for the rest of the week...  That said,  ..could some big changes across AZ ..and the wider Western U.S.  be lurking right on the horizon beyond next weekend??

Current GFS ..and some other Model output.. seems to be hinting at it..  Still,  been a bit of flip - flopping between a change to cooler/ wetter, and ..status quo mild / warm n' dry -for the most part- in individual model runs  ..so it's tough to say exactly which scenario will occur as we enter the final stretch of October.. 

Today's Model runss keep the current look going thru the week / into the weekend, then indeed, it could turn cooler / wetter..



Regardless,  maybe,  just maybe  we'll put an end to the 100s and 90s for the rest of 2023 by next Wednesday

..Potential exists for some fall shower chances around that time too, depending upon how far south the potential storm forecast for early next week digs into California as it comes ashore at that time. 

After the potential storm next week heads east, Will the overall Wx pattern stay unsettled across the west as Halloween nears?, or switch back to a slightly cooler version of the overall warm / dry pattern so far this fall ( here )  We shall see..


Maybe a few days of cooler weather next week will finally end " Cicada Season "..    It may be mid - October,  but the local Cicadas still assume it is mid - August.. 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Silas_Sancona
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[Palm Sundae]

10 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Regardless,  maybe,  just maybe  we'll put an end to the 100s and 90s for the rest of 2023 by next Wednesday

..Potential exists for some fall shower chances around that time too,

The good news is a few days with projected highs in the 70's. That 70's show will be a fan favorite is my prediction.

Enough with the triple digits... Halloween decorations around the neighborhood and pumpkin spice everything in stores for goodness sake!

 

[sandgroper]

Currently 28c at 1.00pm heading for a top of 31c.

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, Palm Sundae said:

The good news is a few days with projected highs in the 70's. That 70's show will be a fan favorite is my prediction.

Enough with the triple digits... Halloween decorations around the neighborhood and pumpkin spice everything in stores for goodness sake!

 

Halloween decorations = good.. Pumpkin spice ..anything = ..Not so much, lol..

I just want it to cool down enough so i can work on some yard projects / finish prepping beds / get seed down for the coming years' winter/ spring wildflower show..

[UK_Palms]

Aghhhh, so on Sunday night I went down to -1.3C / 29F here, which was my earliest frost in at least 24 years, since 1999. It was also my coldest October temperature in 30 years for me here, since 1993. That doesn’t make for pleasant reading at all. Some parts of southeast England had their lowest October temperatures, this early on, for 64 years!!!

 

 

Thankfully this early on the daytime recovery is decent enough still. It warmed up to 13.7C / 56F on Monday afternoon and I am expecting 20C / 68F again in a few days time. I just got unlucky that abnormally low hPa temperatures coincided with clear skies this early on into autumn/fall. What has happened, has happened, and we move on. Hopefully winter is kind to us this year!

 

Currently 16C / 61F at lunchtime with clear sunny skies where I am working.

Edited October 17, 2023 by UK_Palms

[PalmatierMeg]

Currently 60.6F. Haven’t been this cool since March.

Low overnight on the Isabelle Canal was 59.4F

[JohnAndSancho]

After living in Houston/various suburbs, then living across the street from a major university for 4 years, it's weird seeing stars. 

[RedRabbit]

Made it down to 50-52:

Edited October 18, 2023 by RedRabbit

[Palm Sundae]

On 10/16/2023 at 9:14 PM, Palm Sundae said:

The good news is a few days with projected highs in the 70's. That 70's show will be a fan favorite is my prediction.

Hey! Where did those projected 70's go? No one like the 70's show. 😣

Turn your back for a couple days and they change the forecast. 😛

[Silas_Sancona]

2 hours ago, Palm Sundae said:

Hey! Where did those projected 70's go? No one like the 70's show. 😣

Turn your back for a couple days and they change the forecast. 😛

Weather forecasts this time of year be like:



...or... 




🙃 🤷‍♂️ 🤣

Edited October 19, 2023 by Silas_Sancona
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[flplantguy]

Agreed, my forecast low was 60 and it's 53🙄.  bouncing random indeed lol.

[Arecaceus]

Last weekend we had a cool-off from the summerly temperatures with a huge temperature drop into Monday. I also had a low of 4.1°C after a night with a low of 19.3°C! After that it started to get warmer again with lots of sunshine and pleasant temps. Tomorrow a good amount of rain is coming up from Spain. Today's high was 21.4°C and the low 13.5°C. ☀️🌦️🌴

[Arecaceus]

On 10/17/2023 at 1:25 PM, UK_Palms said:

Aghhhh, so on Sunday night I went down to -1.3C / 29F here, which was my earliest frost in at least 24 years, since 1999. It was also my coldest October temperature in 30 years for me here, since 1993. That doesn’t make for pleasant reading at all. Some parts of southeast England had their lowest October temperatures, this early on, for 64 years!!!

 

 

Thankfully this early on the daytime recovery is decent enough still. It warmed up to 13.7C / 56F on Monday afternoon and I am expecting 20C / 68F again in a few days time. I just got unlucky that abnormally low hPa temperatures coincided with clear skies this early on into autumn/fall. What has happened, has happened, and we move on. Hopefully winter is kind to us this year!

 

Currently 16C / 61F at lunchtime with clear sunny skies where I am working.

Crazy! I don't even understand how this was possible considering the temperatures everywhere else. 😨
Have you noticed any plant damage? Looking back at last winter with temps around new year going above 20°C and then dropping into frost, I know that sudden temperature drops without any time for the plants to go into "hibernation" mode are the worst. Even if the freeze is not a hard one.