What is your current yard temperature?

[Silas_Sancona]

2 minutes ago, Palm Sundae said:

Yup. Caught 82 here. Was out and about and it felt pretty nice.

Getting some stuff stuff in the yards clipped n' cleaned up  and i was ..sweating, lol..  BIG  contrast compared to this time last year.

[JohnAndSancho]

Double Uh-Oh's 

[UK_Palms]

It seems winter is on hold for us at the moment in southern England…

 

Look how mild the nights are in Cornwall over the next week or so…

 

High pressure likely building in around mid-month. It could mean pleasantly sunny, warm days but chilly nights at this time of year as we approach the winter solstice.

Edited December 7, 2023 by UK_Palms

[PalmatierMeg]

Currently 53.3F on the Isabelle Canal. Low was 52,3F

[Samuel]

4 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

It seems winter is on hold for us at the moment in southern England…

 

Look how mild the nights are in Cornwall over the next week or so…

 

High pressure likely building in around mid-month. It could mean pleasantly sunny, warm days but chilly nights at this time of year as we approach the winter solstice.

Actually that would be cold at the surface temps between 4-6c the sun just isn’t strong enough at this time of year

[Silas_Sancona]

61F at 9:29AM  on the way to somewhere in the mid / upper 70s later.. Passing storm to the north will usher in some modestly cooler temps for a couple days as we reach the weekend, then?

...back to " somewhere in the low / mid 70s " next week. ( or warmer ??? )  How warm ..or mild  it is will depend on the strength and positioning of another ridge of High Pressure currently scheduled to develop either right over head, or just off shore of Cen. / S. Cal next week..  We'll see..




Dec. update to the NMME is out today and looks ..for the most part, ..pretty torch fest-y for the U.S.  ..if it plays out as suggested.

Jan. Lead #1:

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Feb. Lead #2:

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March, Lead #3:

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Rainfall for CA. & the  S.W.?  ..mixed bag,  though the " wetter "  El Nino  lean is there ...as you can see. 

That said, current runs of the  GEFS ( 00Z Dec 6th run, thru. Jan. 10th / 840 hours ) looks pretty darn dry  ..or, at the more optimistic end, not all that impressive in the " positive rainfall anomalies " department out here.  Being a long range forecast,  thoughts can change on a dime.   Just have to wait n' see.

Edited December 7, 2023 by Silas_Sancona
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[Than]

It's 19:20 and the temperature in my yard is 54 F. I have come to believe that my yard has a microclimate and stays warmer than the rest of the town at nights. It's always 3 degrees Celsius warmer than the forecasted temperature. Either the forecast is crap or the large pine trees that cover my yard help a lot. 

Yet I am being paranoid as always and I bring indoors the most sensitive plants: Euterpe edulis and Eucalyptus deglupta cos they're still babies. My friends laugh at me and say I exaggerate. I don't bring them indoors cos I am afraid they may die at 50F though; I just don't want them to stop growing.

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, ego said:

It's 19:20 and the temperature in my yard is 54 F. I have come to believe that my yard has a microclimate and stays warmer than the rest of the town at nights. It's always 3 degrees Celsius warmer than the forecasted temperature. Either the forecast is crap or the large pine trees that cover my yard help a lot. 

Yet I am being paranoid as always and I bring indoors the most sensitive plants: Euterpe edulis and Eucalyptus deglupta cos they're still babies. My friends laugh at me and say I exaggerate. I don't bring them indoors cos I am afraid they may die at 50F though; I just don't want them to stop growing.

If your property sits on any kind of slope, ..West or South / Southeast facing esp,  that may play into it staying a little warmer than any surround areas which might sit below your property / neighborhood.

Pines, big / dense ones esp, can help elevate / moderate localized level temperatures too, even though their foliage profile is " slimmer " than trees w/ broader leaves.


We've hit -at least-  38 or 9 once or twice so far and i haven't brought a single " sensitive " thing in yet ..Includes all potted Plumeria, ..60% of which are seedling sized, ..almost 2 dozen Orange Geiger seedlings, and both of my Desert Rose, one of which can't be replaced.  We'll see how much longer they stay outside  ..if i'll even need to bring them inside at all this year.



Keep in mind that it isn't just temperature that influences growth.. Day length is a big factor as well and this time of year,  growth, esp. for " Tropical-esque " / warm season growing things is generally slowed down,  or stops completely,  until days start getting longer.

Whenever i've brought in stuff this time of year, it would either go to sleep ( Plumeria / Desert Rose, Ceiba Genus stuff ), or growth slowed wayyy down until about late Feb.  That's even with keeping the inside of the house in the 70s.  Here at least.

Same idea w/ stuff in the ground ( Plumeria / stuff from the dry tropics )..  Winter is " Relax, ..and / or take a nap "  time, esp. for anything whose Genus / Family origin(s) are rooted in the " tropics ". 

On the other hand, this is the time of year " Temperate ", and / or Mediterranean stuff, like native, spring flowering things / stuff from similar climate areas in S. Africa / Aus.,  ..or the Olive out front are in an easily noticed " active " growth mode.

[Than]

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

If your property sits on any kind of slope, ..West or South / Southeast facing esp,  that may play into it staying a little warmer than any surround areas which might sit below your property / neighborhood.

Pines, big / dense ones esp, can help elevate / moderate localized level temperatures too, even though their foliage profile is " slimmer " than trees w/ broader leaves.


We've hit -at least-  38 or 9 once or twice so far and i haven't brought a single " sensitive " thing in yet ..Includes all potted Plumeria, ..60% of which are seedling sized, ..almost 2 dozen Orange Geiger seedlings, and both of my Desert Rose, one of which can't be replaced.  We'll see how much longer they stay outside  ..if i'll even need to bring them inside at all this year.



Keep in mind that it isn't just temperature that influences growth.. Day length is a big factor as well and this time of year,  growth, esp. for " Tropical-esque " / warm season growing things is generally slowed down,  or stops completely,  until days start getting longer.

Whenever i've brought in stuff this time of year, it would either go to sleep ( Plumeria / Desert Rose, Ceiba Genus stuff ), or growth slowed wayyy down until about late Feb.  That's even with keeping the inside of the house in the 70s.  Here at least.

Same idea w/ stuff in the ground ( Plumeria / stuff from the dry tropics )..  Winter is " Relax, ..and / or take a nap "  time, esp. for anything whose Genus / Family origin(s) are rooted in the " tropics ". 

On the other hand, this is the time of year " Temperate ", and / or Mediterranean stuff, like native, spring flowering things / stuff from similar climate areas in S. Africa / Aus.,  ..or the Olive out front are in an easily noticed " active " growth mode.

My yard is in a low spot indeed but funny enough it is north facing and never gets sun. In the summer it is up to 10 degrees Celsius cooler than the town! Strange place..

You are right about the day length.. I only put Euterpe inside cos I have read it is very cold sensitive (zone 11 plant I think?) and apparently it is stressed below 15 C. Although to be fair it was left out at 13 C  few nights and yet it's still pushing its third leaf. When I put it indoors in the evening, I put it under a strong grow light for few more hours.

38 F is roughly the coldest we get here, normally in January or February. Re plumerias I have also stopped putting them indoors cos no matter what they would drop their leaves and hibernate. So now they stay outdoors. They have been proven hardy so far.

What is the most sensitive plant you have outdoors?

Edited December 7, 2023 by ego

[Silas_Sancona]

5 hours ago, ego said:

My yard is in a low spot indeed but funny enough it is north facing and never gets sun. In the summer it is up to 10 degrees Celsius cooler than the town! Strange place..

You are right about the day length.. I only put Euterpe inside cos I have read it is very cold sensitive (zone 11 plant I think?) and apparently it is stressed below 15 C. Although to be fair it was left out at 13 C  few nights and yet it's still pushing its third leaf. When I put it indoors in the evening, I put it under a strong grow light for few more hours.

38 F is roughly the coldest we get here, normally in January or February. Re plumerias I have also stopped putting them indoors cos no matter what they would drop their leaves and hibernate. So now they stay outdoors. They have been proven hardy so far.

What is the most sensitive plant you have outdoors?

Aside from the Adenium,  Catesbaea spinosa,  and  Kopsia arborea  would be the most cold sensitive things i've got atm.. That said, while both will drop leaves, and / or pout a bit thru the coldest part of our " winter ", ( esp. if chilly / wet  -which is pretty uncommon- )  it's the heat that can do them in rather than any cold they've endured.

When i bring stuff in, it's more about avoiding chilly / wet soil than any serious impact from the cold itself.  W/ the Catesbaea, i'm trying to keep it outside as long as possible since it  gets a bit fidgety  when it is indoors longer than say a few nights..  By " fidgety " i mean it will start dropping leaves more and then through more stress when it goes back out. 

This coming spring, i may place it out front where it gets an hour or so of sun right after sunrise / filtered light until the sun passes over the house since i've gotten it to flower,  but the flowers will drop before they fully open ( because it likes to flower right when it gets HOT in June ) when it sits on the west side of the house, even though where it hangs out is shaded through the day. Goal is seed to produce more since it is tough to find for sale. Fruit is supposedly edible as well ..but i'll be doing much more research before trying it.

[Than]

5 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Aside from the Adenium,  Catesbaea spinosa,  and  Kopsia arborea  would be the most cold sensitive things i've got atm.. That said, while both will drop leaves, and / or pout a bit thru the coldest part of our " winter ", ( esp. if chilly / wet  -which is pretty uncommon- )  it's the heat that can do them in rather than any cold they've endured.

When i bring stuff in, it's more about avoiding chilly / wet soil than any serious impact from the cold itself.  W/ the Catesbaea, i'm trying to keep it outside as long as possible since it  gets a bit fidgety  when it is indoors longer than say a few nights..  By " fidgety " i mean it will start dropping leaves more and then through more stress when it goes back out. 

This coming spring, i may place it out front where it gets an hour or so of sun right after sunrise / filtered light until the sun passes over the house since i've gotten it to flower,  but the flowers will drop before they fully open ( because it likes to flower right when it gets HOT in June ) when it sits on the west side of the house, even though where it hangs out is shaded through the day. Goal is seed to produce more since it is tough to find for sale. Fruit is supposedly edible as well ..but i'll be doing much more research before trying it.

Catesbea spinosa is such a stunner; I'd never seen it before. The web says both Catesbea and Kopsia are 10a plants so they shouldn't be that sensitive to the cold in you area.

I wonder what your water bill looks like in the summer!

You're lucky your winters are dry. Mine are very wet. I am considering a piece of plastic around trunks of the most sensitive plants when it is raining but I don't know if it is a good idea...

 

[UK_Palms]

12.1C / 54F at midday here today.

Difficult to say what the weather will do moving forward towards Christmas. It will almost certainly trend colder again as the month progresses, as expected, but it could get even milder.

Last nights ECMWF model was nuts lol. 13C hPa isotherms showing in Cornwall around 17th December. That would probably equate to 20C / 68F temps in places that see Foehn influence. Likely 18C / 64F in London. Highly doubt this will happen.

 

Also today will see the earliest sunset of the year. As of tomorrow, the sunset times will be increasing again! Thank goodness! 🤣

[RedRabbit]

It was quite a bit warmer this morning.

[Silas_Sancona]

9 hours ago, ego said:

Catesbea spinosa is such a stunner; I'd never seen it before. The web says both Catesbea and Kopsia are 10a plants so they shouldn't be that sensitive to the cold in you area.

I wonder what your water bill looks like in the summer!

You're lucky your winters are dry. Mine are very wet. I am considering a piece of plastic around trunks of the most sensitive plants when it is raining but I don't know if it is a good idea...

 

As a rule of thumb,  i'll take what a majority of internet - based info is out there regarding really uncommon plants with a couple grains of salt. Not totally dismiss it ( unless the information is really wrong, lol )  ...and then compare that info ..the more educated info that i trust more.. with what i observe myself.

True that both plants are good down to 10A / uppermost end of 9B but generalized info often won't account for specifics ..10A  in S.W. Florida or Cuba can act differently vs. 10a in the northern end of the Sonoran Desert. Some things are the same for both areas of course, a few ..quite important.. things are different. Those minor, regional- level things can effect adaptability -positively or negatively.

With plants that are rarer, what can do fine in one flavor of 10A, or any other zone really,  might act differently under a different type of 10A climate. Especially if something isn't being grown in both areas over x amount of time to have gained enough insight about how the particularities of each 10A " flavor " effect it . It's why i like to grow more unusual things that you don't see much out here. Stuff which, -overall- could be adaptable, but, on a finer level, might,  or might not  be.  ..Might handle the cold fine, but heat / combination of heat and dry air may kill it ...or really slow it down. 

Good example? People grow Roses here, but ..for the most part, they often won't look quite as nice as they can in areas where it isn't as brutally hot as we get, ..or are as dry.  Mangoes can be grown here as well, but a majority won't reach ..or may take longer to reach.. the size / height of specimens of a similar age you might see in San Diego or S.W. FL. Internet sources regarding growing Mangoes may ..or may not.. take such important nuances into account.

Water bill isn't too bad, esp. if Monsoon Season is good..  Stuff like the Cacti / some other succulent things aren't watered much when it is hot. Other stuff? i'l wait to see the foliage starting to droop a little before watering.  Small stuff dries out the fastest obviously..

As for putting plastic around the trunks? ..i wouldn't.. A great way to encourage fungal / bacterial issues since while the plastic might keep rain from falling on them, it won't keep moisture away since the soil surrounding the plants will be moist and venting that moisture a few days / week or so after it has rained.  Escaping moisture trapped by the plastic = perfect environment for trouble.

Edited December 8, 2023 by Silas_Sancona
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[Than]

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

As a rule of thumb,  i'll take what a majority of internet - based info is out there regarding really uncommon plants with a couple grains of salt. Not totally dismiss it ( unless the information is really wrong, lol )  ...and then compare that info ..the more educated info that i trust more.. with what i observe myself.

True that both plants are good down to 10A / uppermost end of 9B but generalized info often won't account for specifics ..10A  in S.W. Florida or Cuba can act differently vs. 10a in the northern end of the Sonoran Desert. Some things are the same for both areas of course, a few ..quite important.. things are different. Those minor, regional- level things can effect adaptability -positively or negatively.

With plants that are rarer, what can do fine in one flavor of 10A, or any other zone really,  might act differently under a different type of 10A climate. Especially if something isn't being grown in both areas over x amount of time to have gained enough insight about how the particularities of each 10A " flavor " effect it . It's why i like to grow more unusual things that you don't see much out here. Stuff which, -overall- could be adaptable, but, on a finer level, might,  or might not  be.  ..Might handle the cold fine, but heat / combination of heat and dry air may kill it ...or really slow it down. 

Good example? People grow Roses here, but ..for the most part, they often won't look quite as nice as they can in areas where it isn't as brutally hot as we get, ..or are as dry.  Mangoes can be grown here as well, but a majority won't reach ..or may take longer to reach.. the size / height of specimens of a similar age you might see in San Diego or S.W. FL. Internet sources regarding growing Mangoes may ..or may not.. take such important nuances into account.

Water bill isn't too bad, esp. if Monsoon Season is good..  Stuff like the Cacti / some other succulent things aren't watered much when it is hot. Other stuff? i'l wait to see the foliage starting to droop a little before watering.  Small stuff dries out the fastest obviously..

As for putting plastic around the trunks? ..i wouldn't.. A great way to encourage fungal / bacterial issues since while the plastic might keep rain from falling on them, it won't keep moisture away since the soil surrounding the plants will be moist and venting that moisture a few days / week or so after it has rained.  Escaping moisture trapped by the plastic = perfect environment for trouble.

Great advice as always!

[Xenon]

Beautiful warm day 

[sandgroper]

Heading for 30c today with a fairly typical forecast for early summer over the coming week. 

[Silas_Sancona]

62 currently ( 59 when i grabbed the screen shot ) on the way to the upper 60s later..  Forecast for the week ahead looking good ..just not as " hot " as last week.. Could things be about to change as we close in on the height of the Holiday Season????




As most have noted, it has been a pretty quiet -and warm, here esp, start to December making many ,myself included wonder when or if the " suggested " El Nino driven, wetter pattern might ( ...or might not ) materialize for Cen and S. Cal ..and here in Cen / S. AZ..

While we'll have to wait and see how it plays out, ..if it follows some recently suggested hints, it is looking like the East Asian Jet will intensify and slowly nose it's way east toward the west coast ..sometime in the shortly before, or just after the X-Mass time frame which could open the storm door ...At least temporarily, maybe for longer..

Will the Jet Extention make it ..all the way to CA.?? ..or veer a little more toward the north, or south,  as it inches closer??  ..And how long could it hang around? ..if it does reach this side of the Pacific??  ..As Daniel Swain mentions in his latest blog post,  We'll just have to wait and see. I have my own thoughts, but want to see how this potential pattern change, even if brief,  evolves before sharing any.

Mr. Swain's thoughts:

https://weatherwest.com/


That said, - For the moment- the GFS is picking up on the potential for some storm-ier times ahead as we get closer to the 20th.  Will it hold??, disappear? or get kicked down the road?? ..until it is ..April?, lol..  I'd say,  got anything that is cool / wet sensitive in containers?  maybe think about where to move them so they stay drier ..if that is an option of course..



As we inch closer to the start of 2024, a look at the  current CFSv2 ENSO "Skeddy " plots as they look now, and what may occur once past January.

Included chicken scratch dots 'n stuff depict the following:

Yellow = Where things stood last April

Light Green = our weird " May-soon " /  " not the Monsoon " tease  last May.

Broken Green line = ~ roughly June 15th ..about the time i ( and others ) start looking at clearer signs of when the Monsoon may kick in / how the the pattern ahead might be leaning.

Solid light Blue line =  When the first solid signs of the start of Monsoon season should occur ( Tucson seeing a nice, right on schedule storm or two on ..or the day before / after... the 4th of July, for example )

Red = ..and the Orange line next to it.. the start of last July's / Summer's Hell-fire and our abysmal Monsoon season.

Magenta = where we're at now.

Solid Purple line = January.

Yellow w/ blue dot = where the forecast plots are suggesting we may be at come April ( '24 )

Darker Green dot = Where we may be as we reach July of next year. While where it could be does not  guarantee  next summer will be better than this year ( ..Can't see how it could be any worse, as mentioned before ) but, summers in which El Nino is in rapid decay / entering La Nina  can be wet, ..or at least better than last summer.   Obviously, a few months to see how ( ..or if ) that potential scenario might evolve.

[Foxpalms]

On 12/7/2023 at 1:35 PM, Samuel said:

Actually that would be cold at the surface temps between 4-6c the sun just isn’t strong enough at this time of year

If the 850hpa temps aren't lower than 0c, the temps definitely won't be 4-6c in London. More like 7-10c. However the GFS runs are now showing signs of potential colder 850hpa temps. The sun is weak but it does still warm up faster than when it's cloudy. Looking at the latest gfs run it will probably be above 10c a few days and we will have a couple colder days (7c highs). But with the jetstream it could completely change.

[JohnAndSancho]

It's in the 60s, low tomorrow is 30. You know what that means! Lots of storms. I just spent an hour getting Sancho out from under my mom's bed. 

[MarcusH]

On 1/25/2023 at 6:05 PM, Foxpalms said:

44.1f/6.7c in London at midnight should slowly start to turn mild here again.

43°F at 8.08 AM sunny ,High 62°F sunny today . San Antonio, TX, USA 

Edited December 10, 2023 by MarcusH

[Foxpalms]

High of 55f/12.7c with a low of 48.2f/9c today. Yesterday it was 57.5f/14c. 46% chance of thunderstorms occurring on Tuesday. Pretty average December weather in the 7 day forecast.

[Palm Sundae]

On 12/9/2023 at 11:32 AM, Silas_Sancona said:

62 currently

I had a whole day of unchanged temperatures and humidity. Would have helped had I remembered to change the batteries in the device a little sooner. 😏

[kinzyjr]

Currently a comfy 67F after over an inch of rain fell.  Tomorrow will be a lot cooler than today for a high.  It should top out in the mid-to-upper 60s tomorrow vs. in the 80s today.  We're happy for the rain at least.

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, Palm Sundae said:

I had a whole day of unchanged temperatures and humidity. Would have helped had I remembered to change the batteries in the device a little sooner. 😏

No worries, you'll have a nice week ahead to get it up and going again.. 

Mid 70s, as we head into X-Mas week?  Very possible it is..




Look at that 14 day.. Holy Canoli.. 



As for rain?  Despite the current 10 and 14 day,  ..She's still in the room.

[UK_Palms]

11.1C / 52F at 2am here. Although nights remain mild, there is a slight cool down starting this week, before temperatures elevate again around the 16th-17th. Temperatures will remain very mild in the southwest though still especially.

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The period around the 17th - 18th looks interesting with potentially some very mild uppers (850 hPa's) for the time of year. The ECMWF is sending 14-15C hPa's in around 18th...

 

The GFS also shows that spike as well. Could be looking at 18C / 65F potentially, with foehn assistance in places.

[Xenon]

32.5F just before sunrise with patchy frost on exposed lawn. "First frost" I guess...don't see any damage though, even the exposed basil looks fine as well as the volunteer papaya patch. 

[DTS]

Pretty mild for my location

[JohnAndSancho]

Very brrr indeed, WeatherDoge. 

[amh]

34F right now.

Thankfully the dew point isn't too low.

[SFLP48584]

49F and clear.

-John

[Silas_Sancona]

61 on the way to the upper 60s / 70-71 later..

Excellent weekend ahead, before.....



Will it, or will it not?  ..That is the question..

[Silas_Sancona]

Our first " Flirtation with 32F"  this morning across the valley..  A touch of frost on the roof tops / most exposed part of the grass out back is about it..  Just  your typical, chilly morning start in the desert, in winter, otherwise.. Certainly nothing to whine about.

  Already in the mid 40s, on the way to the upper 60s / lowest 70s later..  Mid/ upper 70s tomorrow- about Wednesday..  Still watching to see if any of the storms lining up for CA over the coming days will shuffle some rain east across the state line to the Central Deserts mid /later next week..

Aside from that, looking like a pretty wet period ahead for CA starting sometime over the weekend / shortly afterwards..

Morning #'s from around the area / Tucson / Central Borderlands area, as of 7:30- 7:36AM MST.  Have to say,  rare that you see colder readings in a more populated area ( the 20-something readings near Agua Caliente Park on the far east side of Tucson ) compared to a majority of readings around the Sonoita / Patagonia / Huachuca City area further south / southeast. Remember, that part of the Borderlands region sits above 4-5Kft, and is very sparsely populated..

While not not densely populated, compared to other areas of Tucson at least,  plenty of homes and varied terrain around  Agua Caliente.  Notable Cold pocket of the Tucson area no doubt, but ..usually anyway, when readings are below freezing there, would usually see readings running as cold ..or colder in the Borderlands area mentioned above..  ..Something like Lower 20s / upper teens.  Not too bad of a start down there today.

Our neck of the woods..















Tucson area








Central Borderlands.

[UK_Palms]

People talking about a big freeze in recent days for us in Western Europe are about to get a reality check. Despite an initial cold snap as we entered December, winter is fighting a losing battle now to get established here.

The nights especially have been very mild and they are about to get even milder. 12C / 54F minimums in some places come Sunday / Monday as we approach the shortest day of the year lol. A mild December for sure now.

Looking ahead to Christmas, the latest ECM run has 10C uppers (850 hPa) temps over us. So we are probably looking at 13-14C / 55F at ground level possibly. Also attached is the GFS forecasted temperatures.

[Palm Sundae]

On 12/14/2023 at 9:20 AM, Silas_Sancona said:

Our first " Flirtation with 32F"  this morning across the valley..  A touch of frost on the roof tops / most exposed part of the grass out back is about it..  Just  your typical, chilly morning start in the desert, in winter, otherwise.. Certainly nothing to whine about.

Aside from that, looking like a pretty wet period ahead for CA starting sometime over the weekend / shortly afterwards..

Heh. Actually a smidge warmer here but no matter to me unless it dips into the 20's.

Some chilly mornings that seem to take a bit longer than usual to warm up to my comfort zone.

Wed-Sat looking promising on the rain front in the .50-".75" range, would work out pretty nicely for the yard.

[Silas_Sancona]

17 minutes ago, Palm Sundae said:

Heh. Actually a smidge warmer here but no matter to me unless it dips into the 20's.

Some chilly mornings that seem to take a bit longer than usual to warm up to my comfort zone.

Wed-Sat looking promising on the rain front in the .50-".75" range, would work out pretty nicely for the yard.

No 20's allowed, lol..  Agree, a few mornings lately have hung on to their chill a touch longer than others.

Wed - Sat. looks interesting for sure. Have seen roughly the same totals, up to just over an inch suggested for up this way for the same time frame..  Even at .50",  i'll take it.  Storm looks " warm " too ..so only the highest peaks might see any snow.

Could be flirting w/ 70s again by the start of '24  ..if some of the drier / milder model run " thoughts " since last night  stick. 

1 month and a couple weeks to go after that before " Gem and Mineral show season "  in Tucson ...AKA:  the beginning of " winter " waning / Dawn of spring plant sales season..

Edited December 16, 2023 by Silas_Sancona
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[Silas_Sancona]

80 at 2:45PM MST under extensive high cloudiness passing through..  " Toasty " ..as we enter late December,  ...then? 

If the current " thoughts" from Wx.U. are to be believed, " ..Iss' gonna rain' "  here as we close in on X- Mass.  A bit skeptical of these specific totals, or that it could be rainin' Fri thru Sunday, but, so far, overall forecast from multiple sources is staying on target.  ...So, We'll see how things look come Wednesday.




Regardless, looking like it stays " mild "  thru -at least-  X-Mass eve..


Some #'s from around town and down south..  Not bad at all for this time of year  

Local ' Hood:
















C.G. and Tucson:











Central Borderlands:

[UK_Palms]

The exceptionally mild spell is about to peak in the next 12-24 hours with 850 hPa’s of 11-12C moving in high above us.

 

 

Last night parts of northern Scotland set new records for their highest nighttime minimum. Most notably Kinloss with a minimum of 12.1C / 54F. This is at 57N latitude.

 

It was a very mild start to Sunday. Temperatures across the board were above 10C / 50F from the get-go. Some places reached 14-15C / 57-59F, which is pretty decent this close to winter solstice at 50-58N in the British Isles.

 

Temperatures have reached 15C / 59F in the far northwest of Scotland today at 57N latitude.

 

London and wider UK forecast…

 

Look at the temperature gradient between the British Isles and the rest of the continent tonight. Very cold in parts of France, Germany and Spain. Mostly due to clear skies.

 

2am in north central Wales and it is 14C / 57F there…

 

Christmas Day outlook on latest GFS 18z run. Highs of 12C / 54F in London. I’ll take that.

 

Long may this continue. It is relatively dry as well due to the high pressure, but lots of cloud cover from the Atlantic. Basically what we would call a ‘dirty high’ with mild air. Quite a lot of cloud cover, but not particularly wet.

Edited December 18, 2023 by UK_Palms

[JohnAndSancho]

Not 100% positive but pretty sure Sancho just made some steam when he peed 

[SFLP48584]

70F and gorgeous!