What is your current yard temperature?

[UK_Palms]

Currently +5.4C / 41F at 3:30am here.

 

5-6C / 42F in the capital. Not really any difference in the city compared to my rural location tonight.

 

That part of east Kent (Thanet) is milder than the Isles of Scilly again tonight. Despite it’s proximity to the continent, it is currently +7C / 45F there at the coast at 3:30am. 👀

[Palm Sundae]

18 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

 Not a drop of rain here, but looked like a few brief storms blew up just south and east of here as the cold front raced through..

One more night of 28- 32F cold / frosty / freezy to go, 34-30F tomorrow night ..after reaching into the high 50s / lowest 60s  ..Then,  it's over  ..at least for the moment..  60s make their return Saturday and beyond.

We did get about the same amount of rain as Monday, less than 1/2 inch but still enough to make things wet.

The cold still hasn't quite shown up in force. I saw forecasts as low as 25 for both Tuesday dawn and today as well but so far 4 of the 5 nights where temps could be of concern have turned out to be nothing in particular with temps barely ducking below 30 for a total of a few hours. Tomorrow AM yet TBD. The wind yesterday was notable though. A couple small dust storms on my way into Gilbert and lots of tumbleweeds and other small flying obstacles.

Looks like "Snowbird Winter" is back in force around Wednesday with highs reaching the low 70's and overnights above 40. All in all still a very mild winter so far (crosses fingers and says several incantations.)

Edited January 12 by Palm Sundae

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, Palm Sundae said:

We did get about the same amount of rain as Monday, less than 1/2 inch but still enough to make things wet.

The cold still hasn't quite shown up in force. I saw forecasts as low as 25 for both Tuesday dawn and today as well but so far 4 of the 5 nights where temps could be of concern have turned out to be nothing in particular with temps barely ducking below 30 for a total of a few hours. Tomorrow AM yet TBD. The wind yesterday was notable though. A couple small dust storms on my way into Gilbert and lots of tumbleweeds and other small flying obstacles.

Looks like "Snowbird Winter" is back in force around Wednesday with highs reaching the low 70's and overnights above 40. All in all still a very mild winter so far (crosses fingers and says several incantations.)

Yep... Not much of a cold burger up this way either.. A few, non-important things got zapped, which i'd expected. Everything else shivered a bit, but shrugged off the colder mornings this week otherwise.  Wind Chill created by the 40-55MPH Wind yesterday morning nipped the newest / tenderest growth on the Bougainvillea, more than the mornings below 32 for a few hours earlier on..

As the song says:  One more night..  Right on the fence,  frost- wise,  then? ..It's off to the races ..or at least, as you mention, headed in the right direction.



Not sure it will actually get there, but, for the moment at least, could be back to the mid -70s by next Thursday.   Wx underground being a bit bold suggesting a possible 75F  ( ...Could we see the first " neighborhood Wx station " 80F reading / readings of '24 at that time??? ) 🤔  We shall see.


Between the above - mentioned forecast thoughts, those suggested by Accuweather and the local NOAA offices,  and what is suggested when looking at thoughts from model output from the AZ WRF,  Good lookin' forecast otherwise as we start down the final leg of the month...   Snow Birds aside, Haha..😄

[sandgroper]

Currently 25c at 6.00am heading for a warm top of 41c.

[Palmensammler]

Last 5 days constantly below zero. Night temps droped down to -8,5°C / 16,7°F while during days temps did only reach -2°C / 28,4°F. Forecast says it should become warmer for a few days and then we will have cold temps again.

My trachies are still unprotected (11 plants from 3m to few cm)

I hope spring will come soonest, can't wait to go out and do some work in the garden.

Eckhard

[Than]

18 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Last 5 days constantly below zero. Night temps droped down to -8,5°C / 16,7°F while during days temps did only reach -2°C / 28,4°F. Forecast says it should become warmer for a few days and then we will have cold temps again.

My trachies are still unprotected (11 plants from 3m to few cm)

I hope spring will come soonest, can't wait to go out and do some work in the garden.

Eckhard

Can Trachies survive those temperatures? 

Winter has arrived here and tonight will be a cold night for our standards. It is 5 C (41 F) right now but will go down to 2 C (36 F) later. No frost forming though cos I am only 300 metres from the sea. I have left some seedlings out unprotected AND in pots (A. alexandrae, Phoenix dactyliphera and Syagrus romanzoffiana); I hope they make it. 

[Palmensammler]

My two big Trachies (around 3m) did not get any protection since 2012 when we had an extremly cold period. During the last winters they had to resist -14,8 °C / 5,4°F. Some leaf damages but nothing serious. Maybe it*s because they have been planted as seedlings and developed a massive trunk?

Eckhard

 

[Arecaceus]

@Palmensammler I think -15°C is already pushing it for Trachies so yours might be very healthy and I'm also a strong believer (from experience with some species) that growing seedlings in your location makes them more adapted. It doesn't do wonders but especially winter moisture tolerance seems to be somewhat "trainable".

@Than I also left most seedlings out during that last cold spell - right next to the wall though... But I also left a clump of Phoenix dactylifera seedlings in wet soil outside. We had 3 nights of hard freezes (-5°C) and one day with a high just below zero. I wanted to test them and weed them out. P. canariensis has survived this with very little damage in a similar scenario. I know P. canariensis can handle moisture better but I'm very curious how well they will fare. I constantly eat dates so I have plenty of seedlings anyway...

[Than]

19 minutes ago, Hortulanus said:

@Palmensammler I think -15°C is already pushing it for Trachies so yours might be very healthy and I'm also a strong believer (from experience with some species) that growing seedlings in your location makes them more adapted. It doesn't do wonders but especially winter moisture tolerance seems to be somewhat "trainable".

@Than I also left most seedlings out during that last cold spell - right next to the wall though... But I also left a clump of Phoenix dactylifera seedlings in wet soil outside. We had 3 nights of hard freezes (-5°C) and one day with a high just below zero. I wanted to test them and weed them out. P. canariensis has survived this with very little damage in a similar scenario. I know P. canariensis can handle moisture better but I'm very curious how well they will fare. I constantly eat dates so I have plenty of seedlings anyway...

Are you planning to plant them in the ground when they get bigger? Ofc that's gonna take a while.. I cannot imagine a big dactyliphera indoors with all the spiky leaves.

[Arecaceus]

9 minutes ago, Than said:

Are you planning to plant them in the ground when they get bigger? Ofc that's gonna take a while.. I cannot imagine a big dactyliphera indoors with all the spiky leaves.

Yes maybe. To plant and forget about them. But IF I'm really going to try a serious P. dactylifera atempt I'm going to buy one with at least a starting trunk and I will plant it under a small roof overhang because I'm still in doubt that they can handle the wet (and seeminlgy getting even wetter) winters here despite their cold tolerance.

[Than]

8 minutes ago, Hortulanus said:

Yes maybe. To plant and forget about them. But IF I'm really going to try a serious P. dactylifera atempt I'm going to buy one with at least a starting trunk and I will plant it under a small roof overhang because I'm still in doubt that they can handle the wet (and seeminlgy getting even wetter) winters here despite their cold tolerance.

My Dusseldorfian friend told me it was raining for 4 weeks non stop recently. Insane. True I am not sure if dactyliphera would like that. Even a raised mount wouldn't be enough for that much water. But yeah, a mount + a roof may work. They are stunning plants. Just make sure they have enough space cos they get massive. 

[Arecaceus]

3 minutes ago, Than said:

My Dusseldorfian friend told me it was raining for 4 weeks non stop recently. Insane. True I am not sure if dactyliphera would like that. Even a raised mount wouldn't be enough for that much water. But yeah, a mount + a roof may work. They are stunning plants. Just make sure they have enough space cos they get massive. 

Oh you've got a friend here? That's cool. Düsseldorf has a huge Greek community btw. Yup rain's been crazy. It's been also very stormy all the time. But the reason I just left the seedlings outside is that they are still in their germination container which has no opening at the bottom and in summer I would water them constantly and then they survived all that winter rain so far. With planting I don't ever raise palms. I don't think it really does anything. The most important thing is very good drainage. So far even desert plants come through with this. The place where I would plant it would be mostly bone dry in winter anyway and close to the house (more warmth during frosts). I also have a small P. canariensis x dactylifera I could try first. I saw in a video somewhere that they had one in Paris.

[Than]

4 minutes ago, Hortulanus said:

Oh you've got a friend here? That's cool. Düsseldorf has a huge Greek community btw. Yup rain's been crazy. It's been also very stormy all the time. But the reason I just left the seedlings outside is that they are still in their germination container which has no opening at the bottom and in summer I would water them constantly and then they survived all that winter rain so far. With planting I don't ever raise palms. I don't think it really does anything. The most important thing is very good drainage. So far even desert plants come through with this. The place where I would plant it would be mostly bone dry in winter anyway and close to the house (more warmth during frosts). I also have a small P. canariensis x dactylifera I could try first. I saw in a video somewhere that they had one in Paris.

My friend is German actually.

Sounds like you have a good plan with your dactyliphera then. I think it can work. They are stunning trees. A neighbour has an amazing specimen in his garden. It has a perfect shape, I cannot help admiring it every time I pass from his road.

[Arecaceus]

Just now, Than said:

My friend is German actually.

Sounds like you have a good plan with your dactyliphera then. I think it can work. They are stunning trees. A neighbour has an amazing specimen in his garden. It has a perfect shape, I cannot help admiring it every time I pass from his road.

Oh yes I just dropped that fact regardless. 😂

For now I'm happy with trying P. canariensis and P. theophrastii anyway. I know what you mean. I have that amazement with some P. canariensis specimens but in my personal opinion P. theophrastii looks more beautiful. I love the orange leaf bases and the bluish-silvery crown which is a bit fuller than that of the true date palm. 😍

[Than]

9 minutes ago, Hortulanus said:

Oh yes I just dropped that fact regardless. 😂

For now I'm happy with trying P. canariensis and P. theophrastii anyway. I know what you mean. I have that amazement with some P. canariensis specimens but in my personal opinion P. theophrastii looks more beautiful. I love the orange leaf bases and the bluish-silvery crown which is a bit fuller than that of the true date palm. 😍

You must visit Preveli or Vai in Crete then. I was in Preveli this summer; stunning theophrasti forest

[Arecaceus]

2 minutes ago, Than said:

You must visit Preveli or Vai in Crete then. I was in Preveli this summer; stunning theophrasti forest

It's on my bucketlist,,, As well as the palm oasisis of W. filifera populations in the US or T. takil in Northern India or... 😂

[sandgroper]

Currently 29c at 10.00am heading for a top of 38c. A decent day for the boaties, not much wind but it'll be warm out on the sea, I saw quie a few heading out early this morning. 

[Than]

1 C (34 F) last night, very cold for my area. I left some sensitive plants in pots outside, a Ravenala, a Kigelia, some Archontophoenix seedlings, a hibiscus schizopetalus, a Colocasia... I think I'll count some bodies in the next weeks.

So far this is the coldest I've had in my yard in the three winters I have spent here. Last year the lowest was 36F.

[Arecaceus]

3 hours ago, Than said:

1 C (34 F) last night, very cold for my area. I left some sensitive plants in pots outside, a Ravenala, a Kigelia, some Archontophoenix seedlings, a hibiscus schizopetalus, a Colocasia... I think I'll count some bodies in the next weeks.

So far this is the coldest I've had in my yard in the three winters I have spent here. Last year the lowest was 36F.

They should be fine. You might get some cosmetic damage but other than that at least Archontophoenix and Colocasia should be fine. Did you have frost to build up? What type of Colocasia is it?

[DTS]

Pretty comfortable outside. Might go to the beach later!

[Silas_Sancona]

That's more like it...    Week ahead? 👌   Keeping an eye on the " potential " rain chances for later..  We'll see if they actually pan out.



2 camps of thoughts among the " longer " term Op. runs atm.. One would bring some unsettled stuff back into the picture as we close out the month. Stays mild though.

...Other camp keeps things drier, ...more  "  West Coast Ridgin' "  which  could   result in some ....early 80s???... showing up near the end of the month, esp in parts of S. Cal..   We'll see if we see -any- " Hood 80s" mid / late week  first  ...before any that might show up later.





#'s around town / the region as of 1:44PM on a Sunday Afternoon..

Chandler / E. Valley:













Tucson Area:














Central Borderlands..






Upwards from here,  Region - wide,  ...For now... Enjoy..

[sandgroper]

Currently 27c at 7.00am heading fir 41c.

[JohnAndSancho]

WeatherDoge is tripping. It's raining, not snowing. 

[Axel Amsterdam]

South coastal UK

[sandgroper]

Might get a touch warmer than forecast, usually around 2.00pm is the warmest part of the day, after that it usually starts coming down again.

[sandgroper]

2 minutes ago, Axel Amsterdam said:

South coastal UK

That looks a bit unpleasant!

[Axel Amsterdam]

1 hour ago, sandgroper said:

That looks a bit unpleasant!

yes deep in the south part of the UK 

[Arecaceus]

So yesterday we had snow and snowy rain almost all day and the night before that but it didn't stay and melted right away. It's cold but no frost. The low was 0.2°C and the high 2.2°C so far at 1 p.m.. Today was quiet sunny so I wonder how cold it might get next night as also the radar only shows some clouds for tonight. I will cover some small plants again... 🥶☀️

[UK_Palms]

Axel, you lucked out big time with cloud cover. I had clear skies all night long with -10C hPa's overhead and went down to -6.6C / 20F here. The day warmed up to +5C though at least. Unlike parts of Texas, I haven't had subzero days here and even the Houston area has had lower temperatures than anywhere in southern England to be honest.

Anyway, it is much milder tonight due to that cloud cover and only +0.2C at 4am. I have Covid and not sleeping well, hence why I am up at this hour. Something like 40 date record low mins were set on official Met stations for southern England last night. About 15-20 Met stations haven't even recorded a frost though either.

I have been posting all the temperatures and reports in the actual 'Polar vortex' thread since we are having a bit of a polar vortex event here. Tomorrow may be the worst night of this winter, but at least the models look way milder going towards February. The Atlantic returns over the weekend and temps will get close to 15-16C / 60F.

[JohnAndSancho]

Wind chill is like uh, 9 and I concur with the Very Not Okay 

 

Finally supposed to get above freezing for a few minutes tomorrow afternoon. I don't remember when we dropped below freezing, but way too long ago. At least 36 hours. 

[sandgroper]

Looks like we're in for a much cooler spell over the coming week, suits me just fine.

[SeanK]

Snellville GA, 12°F this morning.

[Arecaceus]

We didn't get too cold last night as it eventually got cloudy and air pushed from the south-west. At first it was quiet and dry but in the afternoon it started to snow very good.

I haven't seen so much snow in a long time. I can't even remember driving in such snowy conditions. I brushed off the snow off my plants 3 times today to get the weight off them. It went from normal to winter wonderland in just about an hour. It slowed down in the evening. The temperature was just above freezing today lingering somewhere between 0°C and 1°C.

The reason for this is cold air from the north colliding with very mild air from the south and turning rain into snow. Up north it's freezing cold and in the south it went up to 14°C degrees today and I'm right in the middle of it all. 😰🌨️❄️🌡️

Measured about 7.5cm of snow which for us is A LOT:

[Palm Sundae]

70's are here - at least for a few days. 40's and up for the lows as far as the eye can see. Rain chance this weekend has slid out to Mon-Tue with forecasts fluctuating between a half inch and an inch. Anything in that range would be great! There has been more than enough rain for the cacti/succulents and a bit more won't hurt, but would like to get a bit for the shrubs and trees.

[Ryland]

It's -4.1ºC/24.6ºF here and dropping rapidly.  Most forecasts have been predicting a low tonight of -4 or -5 but it's still, calm, very clear, and I suspect we're on the way to -7 or -8 and the first "zone 8" winter since 2010.

[Foxpalms]

3 hours ago, Ryland said:

It's -4.1ºC/24.6ºF here and dropping rapidly.  Most forecasts have been predicting a low tonight of -4 or -5 but it's still, calm, very clear, and I suspect we're on the way to -7 or -8 and the first "zone 8" winter since 2010.

The weather looks awful over there at the moment. It's currently 32f/0c here. Manchester airport is already at -6c. Cornwall is colder than here at the moment with most coastal areas either 0c or at -1c. Margate is doing well because of cloud cover.

[Than]

Crazy winter so far. Today we expect a max of 20 C / 68 F in Athens! Very warm for this time of the year. My plants of course love it. The same weather will continue till Saturday.

A cold snap is expected on Sunday and Monday though with lows of around 0 C / 32 F.. I hope my tropical hibiscus, Kigelia and Ravenala make it. 

[Arecaceus]

8 hours ago, Than said:

Crazy winter so far. Today we expect a max of 20 C / 68 F in Athens! Very warm for this time of the year. My plants of course love it. The same weather will continue till Saturday.

A cold snap is expected on Sunday and Monday though with lows of around 0 C / 32 F.. I hope my tropical hibiscus, Kigelia and Ravenala make it. 

We're looking forward to the same but the other way around. Currently only 3°C with snow and next week up to 15°C.

[Than]

9 minutes ago, Hortulanus said:

We're looking forward to the same but the other way around. Currently only 3°C with snow and next week up to 15°C.

I dunno if I should be happy that my plants have these warm spells to and take a break and recover or upset because I know this is climate change

[Arecaceus]

2 hours ago, Than said:

I dunno if I should be happy that my plants have these warm spells to and take a break and recover or upset because I know this is climate change

I totally feel what you are saying. This is the guilty pleasure of many exotic plant growers. It has some positive sides for us. Altough last year the warm spells constantly mixed with cold snaps which damaged a lot of my plants. We had 20+°C around New Year's Eve and then it went to cold weather and night freezes. This occured several times in winter 22/23. Plants don't like that as they start to grown and are out of hibernation and frost comes in. Also a lot more rain in recent winters and extremely dry summers and springs for us.