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Pretty cool week ahead, currently 14c heading for 19c with a fair bit of rain about.

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103F with 15%RH.
High today was 110F (43.3c) with a forecasted high of 106. 

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2 more days of hellfire, before the heat backs off ..for a little while at least.

Temps as of 9:55PM:


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Tucson:

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Sonoita, AZ:  ...Where the "good"  weather is hiding atm.  Perhaps another " Sweatshirt in the morning "  kind of day ahead when i head back down there next month?, ...like last year??.. haha..

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Even worse for me last night, down to around -2C/28F. Pretty much as bad as it gets here. A fair bit of damage visible already to many palms, even some considered bulletproof for my climate like Rhopalostylis sapida and Chamaedorea microspadix. I think the worst of it is over for now as the slow moving high pressure system has pretty much made its way past us. Here’s a shot of my Hedyscepe, should recover I think but ouch!

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted
10 minutes ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Even worse for me last night, down to around -2C/28F. Pretty much as bad as it gets here. A fair bit of damage visible already to many palms, even some considered bulletproof for my climate like Rhopalostylis sapida and Chamaedorea microspadix. I think the worst of it is over for now as the slow moving high pressure system has pretty much made its way past us. Here’s a shot of my Hedyscepe, should recover I think but ouch!

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Owwww. I can commiserate having been frost damaged this year too. Your palms will recover but it’s an awful thing to happen. This year has been cold. I had 3 nights in a row of frost with a minus 1.8C my lowest. 

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Posted
Just now, Tyrone said:

Owwww. I can commiserate having been frost damaged this year too. Your palms will recover but it’s an awful thing to happen. This year has been cold. I had 3 nights in a row of frost with a minus 1.8C my lowest. 

Yeah it’s a shocker. On the positive side I figure whatever pulls through from this ok should be ok long term here. Most of my supposedly more tender palms actually seem ok so far. The palms closer to the house tended to fare better which is where I’ve mostly put more marginal species - for good reason it seems. Weird to see no damage at all on Dypsis rosea, Dypsis lanceolata, Dypsis cabadae x madagascariensis and Cyphophoenix nucele, yet only a matter of metres away I have A cunninghamiana, R sapida, Hedyscepe, Howeas and Chamaedoreas all torched. As my canopy grows I’m hoping these kind of events will be more kind to the garden. 

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted
10 minutes ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Yeah it’s a shocker. On the positive side I figure whatever pulls through from this ok should be ok long term here. Most of my supposedly more tender palms actually seem ok so far. The palms closer to the house tended to fare better which is where I’ve mostly put more marginal species - for good reason it seems. Weird to see no damage at all on Dypsis rosea, Dypsis lanceolata, Dypsis cabadae x madagascariensis and Cyphophoenix nucele, yet only a matter of metres away I have A cunninghamiana, , HedyscepeR sapida, Howeas and Chamaedoreas all torched. As my canopy grows I’m hoping these kind of events will be more kind to the garden. 

Surprised you had R.Sapida and A cunninghamiana torched by -2C, but every frost is different in terms of ground temp and hours below freezing.  Last year I documented that a palm can self recover from a spotty appearance like your one has after a freeze, but also saw others like A. Alexandrae that hardly showed any damage after the freeze but declined and had 70% defoliated by late spring ( but then did recover well over summer).

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2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Yeah it’s a shocker. On the positive side I figure whatever pulls through from this ok should be ok long term here. Most of my supposedly more tender palms actually seem ok so far. The palms closer to the house tended to fare better which is where I’ve mostly put more marginal species - for good reason it seems. Weird to see no damage at all on Dypsis rosea, Dypsis lanceolata, Dypsis cabadae x madagascariensis and Cyphophoenix nucele, yet only a matter of metres away I have A cunninghamiana, R sapida, Hedyscepe, Howeas and Chamaedoreas all torched. As my canopy grows I’m hoping these kind of events will be more kind to the garden. 

I feel for you. My Howeas, Hedyscepe, and most of my Rhopalostylis are under canopy so they tended to fair ok. A little bit of mottling that soon fades away. That being said one of my R sapida Oceana was just finishing opening a leaf in a no canopy area and the final part that hadn’t separated must have frozen solid as it’s opening up yellow now. It’ll be fine just a bit ugly. It survived the 43.5C we had back in Feb. However my bananas look sad as do my ultra sensitive Ensete ventricosum, but they’re quick to regrow. My fires and industrial fans helped me save my two Hyophorbe indica from that negative 1.8C night. Not even the gingers underneath them had frost form. The H indicas are opening up new spears after those cold nights. The gingers (Alpinia caerulea) didn’t burn near my fans but under canopy with my Hedyscepe the same species burnt from the frost. Even so, canopy is king when it comes to radiative frost events. 

Hurry up Spring!!

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Warm. 
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@cbmnz @Tyrone actually interesting that you say the mottling damage can fade. I thought I noticed that my Pritchardia hillebrandii had less damage hours after the frost than when it first melted but thought my eyes were deceiving me or it was a trick of lighting. I’ll keep tabs on everything but now have a bit more hope some palms won’t look as bad as I first feared. Here’s a shot of the P hillebrandii yesterday morning showing damage on the frond extremities. I’ll have to get an updated photo to compare. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

Nasty heatwave over your way.  Love the pictures of the Jubes!

It has cooled down significantly here now with a max of just 25C / 77F on Thursday. I even had some rain last night for the first time this month, but only 2mm which will do nothing to offset the drought. Probably the only bit of rain this July as well looking at the forecast for the next 10 days. It wasn’t enough to put out the fires in my county though.

I barely got any sleep last night as the helicopters were going back and forth dealing with the Hankley fire. There are two other active fires within a 3 miles radius of my location. Crews working around the clock to prevent them spreading further. The UK has experienced the highest concentration of wildfires in the world per square mile in 2022.

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Desert like conditions here…

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More cars destroyed by the wildfires. It looks like a car graveyard but that is a residential street. 

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I have also been seeing some more 40C+ charts appear again on the GFS ensembles, just like a few weeks ago. Before this summer there had never been any 40C charts before, so cause for concern again. Last time it verified.

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Dry-summer Oceanic / Warm summer Med (Csb) - 9a

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

@cbmnz @Tyrone actually interesting that you say the mottling damage can fade. I thought I noticed that my Pritchardia hillebrandii had less damage hours after the frost than when it first melted but thought my eyes were deceiving me or it was a trick of lighting. I’ll keep tabs on everything but now have a bit more hope some palms won’t look as bad as I first feared. Here’s a shot of the P hillebrandii yesterday morning showing damage on the frond extremities. I’ll have to get an updated photo to compare. 

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What fascinates me is that I did quite a long Google trawl looking for scholarly articles on this phenomena and found none,either I was looking in the wrong way or nobody has ever bothered to study it.   Mine was a R. Baueri went spotty after last year  -2.5C on July 5th, by 9th it had definetly  faded, by 11th was invisible and the palm showed no ill effects since. What is actually causing the effect? I would presume it's something to do with the cholophyl becoming unevely concentrated, not sure if  the palm  does it in an attempt at self defence or the cold just directly causes it.

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Posted

Lots of lovely rain today looking for a top of 19c.

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Good to see the UK is much cooler now.

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1 hour ago, cbmnz said:

What fascinates me is that I did quite a long Google trawl looking for scholarly articles on this phenomena and found none,either I was looking in the wrong way or nobody has ever bothered to study it.   Mine was a R. Baueri went spotty after last year  -2.5C on July 5th, by 9th it had definetly  faded, by 11th was invisible and the palm showed no ill effects since. What is actually causing the effect? I would presume it's something to do with the cholophyl becoming unevely concentrated, not sure if  the palm  does it in an attempt at self defence or the cold just directly causes it.

Well I went back out and I think I’ve already got some good data to contribute to this phenomenon even after only 1 day. Here’s the updated photo of the Pritchardia, same angle and everything. Only a few isolated mottled spots now. All ‘damage’ on my C microspadix appears gone and damage on most others has at least faded. It’s fascinating, I assumed the dark mottled spots were permanently damaged foliage but that appears not to be the case all the time. This probably belongs on the main forum or cold damage data forum but for now it’s an interesting like between weather extremes and how palms respond. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Posted
2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Well I went back out and I think I’ve already got some good data to contribute to this phenomenon even after only 1 day. Here’s the updated photo of the Pritchardia, same angle and everything. Only a few isolated mottled spots now. All ‘damage’ on my C microspadix appears gone and damage on most others has at least faded. It’s fascinating, I assumed the dark mottled spots were permanently damaged foliage but that appears not to be the case all the time. This probably belongs on the main forum or cold damage data forum but for now it’s an interesting like between weather extremes and how palms respond. 

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Hey, cool, yours normalised out much quicker than mine did last year, mine took 3-4 days. I had R. Sapida Oceania and A. Cunninghamiana also spotted after the freeze, but they recovered over a few days. I actually looked for older discussion on this topic on Palmtalk also but didn't really find anything. Perhaps it's a bit of a downunder thing, we get these -2, -3C, a few hours below 0,  radiatative freezes that are just on the threshold of damage. Whereas in Texas/Florida etc they get 10 years of little to no freezes then an arctic cold front that knocks anything sensitive way more than just being on the threshold of damage. 

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5 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

It has cooled down significantly here now with a max of just 25C / 77F on Thursday. I even had some rain last night for the first time this month, but only 2mm which will do nothing to offset the drought. Probably the only bit of rain this July as well looking at the forecast for the next 10 days. It wasn’t enough to put out the fires in my county though.

I barely got any sleep last night as the helicopters were going back and forth dealing with the Hankley fire. There are two other active fires within a 3 miles radius of my location. Crews working around the clock to prevent them spreading further. The UK has experienced the highest concentration of wildfires in the world per square mile in 2022.

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Desert like conditions here…

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More cars destroyed by the wildfires. It looks like a car graveyard but that is a residential street. 

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I have also been seeing some more 40C+ charts appear again on the GFS ensembles, just like a few weeks ago. Before this summer there had never been any 40C charts before, so cause for concern again. Last time it verified.

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Surely it (40C or close) could not happen again!  Sure hope not. What you need over there is a pattern change that brings several good doses of rain without extreme flooding. Unfortunately when things are setup in a favorable way it can mean higher chance of repeat of extreme events, verses other times. My brain is having trouble processing the images that came through this  week as it's clearly the UK based on the distinct style of buildings etc but used to only seeing images like that from Australia,  California and perhaps very Southern Europe/Spain.

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One ( or two, lol ) more days.. Though High Temps have been under-performing the last couple days ( only 108F today ..instead of 110- whatever was forecast earlier )

Current temp here and in Tucson ( Use the neighborhood station located closest to Tohono Chul Park ..Casas Adobes area of town )


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A mouth watering peek at what tonight's 00Z GFS is suggesting for rainfall totals over the next 10+ days or so.. Liking the big brown spot south of Tucson. :greenthumb::greenthumb:

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Obviously, suggested totals are not set in stone and will increase / decrease a bit per model run over the course of the next several days but,  the suggestion of a good uptick in rain has been reasonably consistent in its run to run " thoughts " as we end July / open August.     

So, ...We'll how this works out. Fingers crossed. 

Some news forecasters have been using the " Air will feel Tropical / Dew points breaking the 70 deg mark at times early next week " talk today..  Letzz Go!!.

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10 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

@cbmnz @Tyrone actually interesting that you say the mottling damage can fade. I thought I noticed that my Pritchardia hillebrandii had less damage hours after the frost than when it first melted but thought my eyes were deceiving me or it was a trick of lighting. I’ll keep tabs on everything but now have a bit more hope some palms won’t look as bad as I first feared. Here’s a shot of the P hillebrandii yesterday morning showing damage on the frond extremities. I’ll have to get an updated photo to compare. 

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That will probably mark up. However I’ve found that hillebrandii affinis and lowreyana are incredibly tough. My Pritchardias have all marked up but expect them to eventually grow out of the damage. My P lowreyana (the only one I have) takes it all in it’s stride and is the least damaged. 

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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7 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Well I went back out and I think I’ve already got some good data to contribute to this phenomenon even after only 1 day. Here’s the updated photo of the Pritchardia, same angle and everything. Only a few isolated mottled spots now. All ‘damage’ on my C microspadix appears gone and damage on most others has at least faded. It’s fascinating, I assumed the dark mottled spots were permanently damaged foliage but that appears not to be the case all the time. This probably belongs on the main forum or cold damage data forum but for now it’s an interesting like between weather extremes and how palms respond. 

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Yeah my Livistona australis are of course super tough, yet in a freeze they mottle up like mad. 2 or 3 days later, they’re all deep green again. Tough as nails those things. 

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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109.4 F in northeast Scottsdale, AZ, at 3:27 p.m.  We're generally 4 degrees cooler than Phoenix proper year round.

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Currents:

Neighborhood:  Was 112F before some thicker high clouds rolled in..

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Casas Adobes.

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83f/28c with 36% humidity in London the past few days have been cloudy and humid with a bit of rain but still not much with some thunderstorms after the heat on Tuesday. Today was sunny and tomorrow should be similar. Temperatures at night are around 17c 

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On 7/22/2022 at 2:49 AM, sandgroper said:

Good to see the UK is much cooler now.

The actual max here yesterday was 24.6C / 76F, so even the Met Office forecast you posted was underestimating the temps a bit. This afternoon it has reached 27.4C / 80F, so again the Met has understated the highs by 2-3C / 5F today. It has been running warmer than the BBC & Met forecasts were showing. The coldest day this month has still reached 22C / 72F.

 

On 7/22/2022 at 5:58 AM, cbmnz said:

Surely it (40C or close) could not happen again!  Sure hope not. What you need over there is a pattern change that brings several good doses of rain without extreme flooding. Unfortunately when things are setup in a favorable way it can mean higher chance of repeat of extreme events, verses other times. My brain is having trouble processing the images that came through this  week as it's clearly the UK based on the distinct style of buildings etc but used to only seeing images like that from Australia,  California and perhaps very Southern Europe/Spain.

The drought is the biggest issue here right now and driving all these fires. It doesn't help that we had record breaking heat as well. Despite a few light showers here and there yesterday afternoon, it was barely enough to wet the surface. I'm still only on 1mm for July and Just look at these July totals...

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Some places are going to finish on 0.0mm for the month of July as there is just nothing in the forecast. It's very dry and warm. I'm going to be on 1.4 inches of rain across past 5 months come August 1st.

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This has the potential to become an extremely dangerous drought over here. Nowhere in Europe has experienced such little rainfall in 2022 as southeastern England. When I was saying last year that London and southeast England was 'transitioning' towards a warm-summer Med (Csb) climate, even I didn't expect it to be a full blown Csb this summer. Even the actual Med regions are not as dry as here, given they had significant spring/winter rainfall. We didn't even have that.

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The leaf fall is shocking. Leaves dried to a crisp on the trees and dropping. It's more like October than July. Never seen anything like it.

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London 'desert' mode activated...

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They are going to have to kit out the London parks with CIDP's, Washingtonia, Chamaerops etc, which will survive the increasingly dry Mediterranean summers that we will be experiencing every other year. The last drought like this was 2018, so 2 of the past 5 summers have been very, very dry with drought. 4 of the past 5 have constituted warm-summer Med with notable absence of summer rainfall.

The native flora just doesn't stand a chance under full-on Csb conditions. I noticed all the stinging nettles and native ferns have also dried up and died completely. Staggering amounts of leaf drop already in mid-summer. No let up in the wildfires either. There are multiple active fires being fought right now across the southeast of England. One still raging away to the south of my location. A terrible situation.

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Dry-summer Oceanic / Warm summer Med (Csb) - 9a

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

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65f/18.3c and 80% humidity tonight. Today should be warm then we will cool down for a bit before the heatwaves continue. @UK_Palms another thing I've noticed is the soil is quite sandy and dusty maybe the hot air from the saharah on Monday and Tuesday also brought up lots of  sand and dust which fell over the UK. And yes it would be nice if the UK councils  planted things such as Canary Island date palms and Washingtonia at parks especially in London since they would thrive here, maybe of even true date palms and queens if the summers stay warm. I still think Cornwall as well  needs to have some nikaus and kentia palms planted at the sea front of places such as Penzance it would make it feel so much more tropical. The problem in the UK is there is this is that plant hardy in the UK perception which I think is stupid since the UK varies a lot depending on where you live, you don't hear people in the USA saying this palm isn't hardy in the USA for example a Canary Island date palm because Ohio can't grow it unprotected, so it misleads people here thinking in places such as Cornwall and london that they can't grow kentias and nikaus for example because they are not hardy everywhere in the UK. could also be the perception the London is cold and rainy so people don't plant rows of Washingtonia that give a city a Mediterranean feel even though they grow well here. Forecast looks good for London for the next 2 weeks.

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It's a frigid 85° right now. I don't think we've seen temps in the 80s since April. 

 

But our forecast for the next couple weeks has us breaking all-time record highs almost daily for the next couple weeks. 

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Well we had a wet weekend with small hail last night. The max was around 14C today. Now at 6pm a high is moving in, the sky has cleared, and it’s dead still and 8C. Oh hell. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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30c/86f with 33% humidity in London again warmer than the forecast. Sunny all day and now as we go into the evening starting to get cloudy again.  Forecast shows a low of 19c tonight.

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A balmy-humid, but far more enjoyable 84F at 11:20am  as attention tuns to what rain may fall today, and/ or over the coming week ahead.. instead of punishing heat. Whenever there is a breeze, can feel that cool, wet " tropical " air cutting into what hotter air is hanging around. ..Kind of like standing in an open doorway when it is hot and dry out, but the Air conditioning is going full blast inside.

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Both yesterday and this morning have featured the remnants of late night / pre- dawn storms ( Mesoscale Convective Complexes " MCCs" ) that barely avoided both Phoenix ( ..and Chandler ) and Tucson( though they got in on the action last night )..  That said, we're under a " flood watch " thru Tuesday night ( unless it gets extended again later ) so it's looking like it is only a matter of time before it pours.. Too many aspects with the weather pattern in play to explain that are suggesting a pretty active period now thru Wednesday - at least. 

That said, unlike forecasting storms in other parts of the country,  Monsoon season rain / individual active storm days are very tough to forecast with 100% assurance so we'll see what we get. Is one reason rainfall chances / amounts keep bouncing around in all the longer range forecasts ..like the current WXunderground 10 day outlook above.. If you look at the same station's forecast later today, or tomorrow morning, almost certain rain chances / days it could rain / rainfall amounts will change compared to what is suggested at this moment.

For the moment, forecast highs this week look to stay somewhere between the mid- 90s and about 102 or 3 here..  lower to mid 90s ..to about 101 or 2 in Tucson. If we have one of those days where it rains on and off all day, that day could fail to reach 90F.

After recovering from some unintended self torture yesterday, maybe i can catch up on getting some things done in the yard today / this week that got shelved when the furnace door was opened back in June. ..and get more good shots when storms roll through... and actually want to be outside, lol




 

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Currently: Hot? yes, Humid? definitely ..but not all that bad honestly.  One of those days you can tell that, if storms do form, there is a lot of potential energy in the air to work with.

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We'll see if some big storms prowling the northeast side of Tucson work their way into the neighborhood later.
 

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Well despite the cold temps (8C) at sundown, no clouds, no wind, and the pressure rising, it didn’t turn into a frigid night like it did about 3 weeks ago. A bit of a breeze came in on and off and kept the min up to 5.8C but in reality for most of the night it sat around 7, 8C, which is average for here now. Now the sun is about to rise for a forecast sunny top of 18C. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Current temp 89Fwith a heat index of 98F

 

Time to break out the flannel sheets and space heaters. Bust out the crock pot and make some chicken tortilla soup. Winter is clearly here. /heavy sarcasm but delighted to see anything below 100

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Max of 28.9C / 83F here on Sunday afternoon. Same sh*t, different day. This is what I am on about when I say the smoke is visible from my yard, yet again here. Hankley common is up in flames with evacuation orders in place at multiple houses. Fire crews have been working around the clock to contain the Hankley fire, Thursley fire, Wenham fire, Enfield fire, Dagenham fire, Eastleigh fire, Hayes fire, New Forest fire, Cranford fire, Micklesham fire, Dartford fire & Thamesmead fires. Several of these are converging into a single larger fire. Helicopters going back and forth dropping water in all directions of my property. The Hankley fire near to me is the worst one. Real thick smog. First 5-6 photos are my own.

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I think we have had enough summer here already. Still another 5 weeks of it to go yet though. Look at the native vegetation! It can't cope with the extreme drought. Lots of it is dead already. I have had 1mm of rainfall over the past 5 weeks now and only 1.4 inches in nearly 5 months, combined with 40C / 104F temps. :crying:

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@UK_Palms

Your bananas are looking good. A lot better than mine at the moment. I hope you get some rain soon.

Just looking at all the pics of tall dead grass and you are lucky you don't have deadly poisonous snakes in the UK. You'd be treading on them if you did. Or they'd be flushed out by the fires and end up where you don't want them, like your house. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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On 7/22/2022 at 7:50 PM, Tyrone said:

That will probably mark up. However I’ve found that hillebrandii affinis and lowreyana are incredibly tough. My Pritchardias have all marked up but expect them to eventually grow out of the damage. My P lowreyana (the only one I have) takes it all in it’s stride and is the least damaged. 

Getting away from the weather topic, but I noticed that P lowreyana was just about the best performing Pritchardia around the Auckland area during a visit a few years back, maybe alongside P minor. I’ve been looking for one for a while as it must have pretty good hardiness to long cool winters. 
 

I have a P affinis (now P maideniana) but I covered it during the worst 2 nights so can’t really comment on absolute cold hardiness on my end. I thought I had heard it was relatively sensitive for a Hawaiian Pritchardia based on data from the States, but good to hear it has been tough for you. I’ll probably let it fend for itself from now on. 

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Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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1 hour ago, Tyrone said:

@UK_Palms

Your bananas are looking good. A lot better than mine at the moment. I hope you get some rain soon.

Just looking at all the pics of tall dead grass and you are lucky you don't have deadly poisonous snakes in the UK. You'd be treading on them if you did. Or they'd be flushed out by the fires and end up where you don't want them, like your house. 

I think there is only 1 venomous snake species in the UK the adder which is probably similar in danger to something such as a cotton mouth in the USA. I have heard there have been lots of sightings of them after the fires and the same with grass snakes here. Hopefully hounslow heath doesn't have a fire since there are thousands there and it's very close proximity to lots of people. Currently 19c/66f in London with 80% humidity at 5.25am

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1 hour ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Getting away from the weather topic, but I noticed that P lowreyana was just about the best performing Pritchardia around the Auckland area during a visit a few years back, maybe alongside P minor. I’ve been looking for one for a while as it must have pretty good hardiness to long cool winters. 
 

I have a P affinis (now P maideniana) but I covered it during the worst 2 nights so can’t really comment on absolute cold hardiness on my end. I thought I had heard it was relatively sensitive for a Hawaiian Pritchardia based on data from the States, but good to hear it has been tough for you. I’ll probably let it fend for itself from now on. 

I'm really happy with my P lowreyana. I grew it from seed. I got 10 seed in from RPS, two came up and one died eventually. The survivor has been strong and almost about to trunk. I'm looking forward to it flowering because I reckon it may set seed. It shouldn't be far away from flowering. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Sitting at a cool 74F this morning on route to a high of 100f. This high pressure system will be hanging around for most of the week probably bringing us our hottest week of the year. Even with our cool wet spring roadside vegetation and trees are already pretty crispy and this will certainly add to that. Surprisingly we have no high winds accompanying the heat which is great.   Burn ban in effect. 
 

 

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The anomaly continues with the upper TX Gulf approaching Red Sea/Persian Gulf style hot and humid nights, 86F/30C with a dew point in the upper 70s/25-26C is a heat index in the upper 90s F (36-37C) at sunrise. 

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Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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