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I just received an Adonidia that I ordered online. These are probably my favorite palm. They are impossible to find in the Houston area so when I found one on a website that would ship it to me I jumped on it. I was wanting one to put in a pot and bring inside on the cold nights in winter. The picture on the website was the perfect size for me. Before I ordered it I called to confirm that what I saw in the picture was the same as what I would receive. I was told that it wouldn’t be quite as big but it would be pretty close. The first picture is from the website and the second one is what I received. They aren’t even close. My question is, how long will it take for mine to look like the picture?011163EC-30BD-4613-9802-FC54F384A95A.thumb.png.377839c8864ee8d204f2caf7f40d651a.png7803B1F7-AED1-4BFA-9EB4-D89E2FE188F5.thumb.jpeg.3df80cc52717a9e1a3ad10d315dd60fb.jpeg

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10 minutes ago, Jeff985 said:

I just received an Adonidia that I ordered online. These are probably my favorite palm. They are impossible to find in the Houston area so when I found one on a website that would ship it to me I jumped on it. I was wanting one to put in a pot and bring inside on the cold nights in winter. The picture on the website was the perfect size for me. Before I ordered it I called to confirm that what I saw in the picture was the same as what I would receive. I was told that it wouldn’t be quite as big but it would be pretty close. The first picture is from the website and the second one is what I received. They aren’t even close. My question is, how long will it take for mine to look like the picture?011163EC-30BD-4613-9802-FC54F384A95A.thumb.png.377839c8864ee8d204f2caf7f40d651a.png7803B1F7-AED1-4BFA-9EB4-D89E2FE188F5.thumb.jpeg.3df80cc52717a9e1a3ad10d315dd60fb.jpeg

It should do well with the humidity and heat in Houston. In a pot it will grow more slowly than in ground. With water and fertilizer, if I had to take a guess on how long, couple of years? The trees in the first picture look like 25 gallon plants. What you received Spears to be a 7 gallon or size palm? I tried growing one of these from a 3 gallon size here in Phoenix outdoors. Didn’t make it so I can’t speak much more than a guess.

just my humble .02 cents. 

 

Max 

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I have no clue. But in my experience, they are a tick less cold hardy than cocos. I have a "triple". They were exposed all winter. "Cali winter". They are still alive but recovering. I see new spears growing. 

Here's are some pics.

I will also include a pic of a rescued coco from a big box store. Outside all winter... however south side, cement beneath and behind it...

I guess, what I'm trying to say is that in Cali, you'll see more cocos than A.merillii.

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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I am glad this topic came up, because I didn’t want to start a new thread just to ask how long Adonidia typically takes to germinate.  I found a few ripe fruits at Sanford Airport, cleaned the skin off and planted them yesterday.

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I planted a triple in the NW corner of my house last spring, it took 5 months before a new spear started visibly growing.  Around that time the sun's angle went below the peak of the house so the palm only saw a little bit of direct light over the winter.  They were approximately 6' OA in the ground when planted, and are about 7-8' overall now, one year later.  I am hoping they'll get another 2' this summer so that the tops see some direct sun next winter. 

Although I haven't grown any other Adonidia, I'd guess yours will take quite a while to get to the size of the first photo.  I read that Adonidia grow rapidly when young, and slow down a bit once they get to around 8-10' overall.  I'm not sure if that's true, I don't recall where I read that.

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They say adonidia grow like weeds, faster than cocos, in the tropics. 

Probably once they establish a trunk they'll get hardier. I don't know.  I'll stick to bottles  and  cocos. 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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They grow fast and they germinate even faster.  I had germination in two days after cleaning and sowing.

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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They are pretty fast growers. More tender than coconuts IMHO. On my oldest, I get a new spear opening about every 45 days. I'd say about in about 5 years it should look like what you wanted. They're cheap around here. I got this smaller, double one 2 weeks ago for $70. 

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4 minutes ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

They are pretty fast growers. More tender than coconuts IMHO. On my oldest, I get a new spear opening about every 45 days. I'd say about in about 5 years it should look like what you wanted. They're cheap around here. I got this smaller, double one 2 weeks ago for $70. 

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$70... I paid $80 for my little seedling. Of course when I ordered it I thought it would be about the same size as yours, so $80 seemed about right. 5 years? That sucks. 

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Hello there,

here is one of my two Manilas I have planted at our home's entrance...

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This photo was taken in Feb.2015 and this one today...

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Already plenty of fallen off seeds on the ground and regarding my experience with this species over here,

8 or 9 out of ten are very likely germinating. I am going to leave them where there are to see what 

happens. This species itself is almost weed over here - so, no one really cares, the palms are planted everywhere

and then mostly left alone - but I think with providing the necessary nutrition/fertilizer it is showing its real potential

as tropical beauty.

Just my two cents.

Best regards from Okinawa -

Lars

 

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My local palm guy sells 3 gallon adonidias or so they say! All of their 3GS are actually ptychosperma elegans super stretched from the nursery. Nothing but issues from the wind breaking g fronds off then crown rot. Up here to have to pay the money for 7g and than you actually get adonidias 

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