Remarkable palms of Tampa Bay

[Chatta]

its a real small area right now with very few plants, mostly natives, a few ornamental/medicinal plants. I think it was started as a way to give ideas to local gardeners for their yards. I also havent really been in years so I don't know the condition of it Just to show you a screenshot of its current area lol. Its pretty small hopefully i can expand it and make it an experience for the park. There's a lot of space outside of the red box to work with i think.

 

[kinzyjr]

South Florida Avenue - BOA Building - Foxtails Since 2007

A few foxtails on the main drag that have been there for more than 10 years.  A few have fallen by the wayside, but the ones that remain are mature, flowering and seeding.  The Google Maps view goes the whole way back to 2007 if you go back in time incrementally and you can see the growth of these palms over time.

[Palmaceae]

Found 2 Jamaican Talls in St. Pete, on Haines road right off of I-275.  You can see them from the expressway.  Looks like they have been there a long time!

 

[kinzyjr]

59 minutes ago, Palmaceae said:

Found 2 Jamaican Talls in St. Pete, on Haines road right off of I-275.  You can see them from the expressway.  Looks like they have been there a long time!

Here is the Google Maps location for anyone intersted: 2018 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

They were there in June 2011: 2011 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

But not in 2007: 2007 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

Nice find @Palmaceae!

[GottmitAlex]

7 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Here is the Google Maps location for anyone intersted: 2018 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

They were there in June 2011: 2011 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coco689nuts

But not in 2007: 2007 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

Nice find @Palmaceae!

Interesting: Not in 2007, but in 2011 they already cleared, by a lot, the 2nd story of that building. 

What? 3 or 4 years of growth?

I can only assume these were transplanted.

I know first hand cocos are rockets when it comes to growth. But this is ridiculous.

Edited November 10, 2019 by GottmitAlex

[Palmaceae]

18 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

Here is the Google Maps location for anyone intersted: 2018 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

They were there in June 2011: 2011 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

But not in 2007: 2007 - Haines Rd. Jamaican Tall Coconuts

Nice find @Palmaceae!

Thanks Kinzy! They must have been planted when they had some size to them, but at least they have been there at least 8 years plus.

[RedRabbit]

1 hour ago, Palmaceae said:

Found 2 Jamaican Talls in St. Pete, on Haines road right off of I-275.  You can see them from the expressway.  Looks like they have been there a long time!

 

Thank you! I’ve seen these many times on 275 but never could pinpoint where they really are. Those are about 2 miles from the bay so it should be a coldish location for St. Pete. 

[kinzyjr]

49 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Interesting: Not in 2007, but in 2011 they already cleared, by a lot, the 2nd story of that building. 

What? 3 or 4 years of growth?

I can only assume these were transplanted.

I know first hand cocos are rockets when it comes to growth. But this is ridiculous.

 

34 minutes ago, Palmaceae said:

Thanks Kinzy! They must have been planted when they had some size to them, but at least they have been there at least 8 years plus.

You're welcome! 

I can't rule out that they may have been there for 2010.  I can personally attest that Jamaican Talls, under proper care, can grow exceptionally fast.  Mine have only been in the ground ~2.5 years as strap leaf seedlings and the fronds have already cleared the apex of my roof and can be seen from the end of the street.

[GottmitAlex]

5 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

 

You're welcome! 

I can't rule out that they may have been there for 2010.  I can personally attest that Jamaican Talls, under proper care, can grow exceptionally fast.  Mine have only been in the ground ~2.5 years as strap leaf seedlings and the fronds have already cleared the apex of my roof and can be seen from the end of the street.

2nd story roofline?

Those cocos have their crown above rgat 2nd story roofline. 

 

Edited November 10, 2019 by GottmitAlex

[kinzyjr]

4 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

2nd story roofline?

Those cocos have their crown above rgat 2nd story roofline.

Single story in my case.  St. Pete is like a different world climate-wise compared to here though.

[SWFLchris]

10 headed to Queen in Clearwater. Certainly not remarkable, but fascinating.

[palmsOrl]

That queen certainly is remarkable, but those Jamaican talls!

[SWFLchris]

Not really Tampa Bay area, but some of the Central Florida folks might like this… Seeding Latania in Winter Haven. https://goo.gl/maps/vzYBxSHo8PrutMQo7

[kinzyjr]

@SWFLchris Probably been past this one hundreds of times, but never noticed it until you posted it.  Nice find!

[Eric in Orlando]

Herr are those Haines St. coconuts in a July 2009 streetview ;

 

[kinzyjr]

The double-headed Butia near Lake Wire:

May 2011

Jan. 2019

I included the most recent view as well as an older one when they didn't over-trim it.

[JJPalmer]

We have two beautiful mature coconut palms on the corner of Patricia and Main. Not sure how long they’ve been here, but there’s little in the way of protection from Northerly winds. 

[kinzyjr]

@JJPalmer Thank you for the picture and welcome to the forums!

[JJPalmer]

@kinzujr Thank you! New to the area and hobby.

[Palmaceae]

8 hours ago, JJPalmer said:

We have two beautiful mature coconut palms on the corner of Patricia and Main. Not sure how long they’ve been here, but there’s little in the way of protection from Northerly winds. 

Welcome! That is amazing to see coconuts that size that far north in Pinellas county! Since I moved back to St Pete this past summer from Cape Coral, I am just amazed of the change from the 1980's to today in regards to the species of palms in this area that had no chance in the 80's.

[Palmaceae]

Went to the Florida Botanical Garden plant sale today in Largo and picked up a Panama Tall coconut and a Red Spicata, and a couple other tropicals.  I did take a few pictures of palms at the gardens.

They had 4 nice size coconuts.

[Palmaceae]

Nice Hyphaene and Coccothrinax crinta

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Copernicia baileyana

Zombia antillarum

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They had several real nice Livistona decora's

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Allagoptera arenaria

[RedRabbit]

6 hours ago, JJPalmer said:

@kinzujr Thank you! New to the area and hobby.

Welcome to the forum and the Tampa Bay Area. I’ve driven past those coconuts a few times and was surprised myself to see them. 

3 hours ago, Palmaceae said:

Went to the Florida Botanical Garden plant sale today in Largo and picked up a Panama Tall coconut and a Red Spicata, and a couple other tropicals.  I did take a few pictures of palms at the gardens.

They had 4 nice size coconuts.

Nice purchases! 

[JJPalmer]

Not sure this one has been mentioned yet, but a rather mature coconut on the south side of the Westin on Rocky Point! Sorry in advance for the poor image quality.

[Palmaceae]

We were in Tampa yesterday and decided to drive by Dr. UA Youngs old property. Last time I was over there was 30 years ago. Still some palms there, most were transplanted in Kopsick but good to see some were still on the property.

Here are some pictures to enjoy.

A few Hyphaene's

[Palmaceae]

Nice mature Latania and Borassus.

[Palmaceae]

[Palmaceae]

Another Borassus, a Cocothrinax and Attalea.

[Palmaceae]

A couple Acrocomia'a

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I believe a Zombia and Elaeis

Copernicia prunifera

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Arenga

Sabal mauritiiformis

Maybe a Nannorrhops?

[RedRabbit]

3 hours ago, JJPalmer said:

Not sure this one has been mentioned yet, but a rather mature coconut on the south side of the Westin on Rocky Point! Sorry in advance for the poor image quality.

I always enjoy driving past that palm. It was planted after 2010 and was nearly defoliated in 2018.
 

I had been wondering if Rocky Point might be the warmest spot in Tampa. Unfortunately, after seeing how this palm faired in 2018 it lead me to believe Rocky Point isn’t as warm as places like Davis Islands or Beach Park. 

[RedRabbit]

49 minutes ago, Palmaceae said:

We were in Tampa yesterday and decided to drive by Dr. UA Youngs old property. Last time I was over there was 30 years ago. Still some palms there, most were transplanted in Kopsick but good to see some were still on the property.

Here are some pictures to enjoy.

A few Hyphaene's

Thanks for sharing. I think Dr. Young’s garden is the best example of what can and can’t survive long term in Tampa. I think I read somewhere that none of his crownshaft palms survived the 80s, do you know if that’s correct?

[Palmaceae]

1 minute ago, RedRabbit said:

Thanks for sharing. I think Dr. Young’s garden is the best example of what can and can’t survive long term in Tampa. I think I read somewhere that none of his crownshaft palms survived the 80s, do you know if that’s correct?

I know he got hit very hard in the 80's, not sure what made it and what did not, but the palms here in the pictures must have made it through those freezes.

[Palmaceae]

Went back to the Florida Botanical Gardens in Largo, took some pictures of the Christmas lights on some of the palms, thought you all may enjoy.

 

[JASON M]

I was watching a TV show about pools when a couple from Port Richey came on, and I spotted the coconut right away. It’s been there since at least 2016 when they put in the pool! Impressive to be this far north. 

[GottmitAlex]

7 minutes ago, JASON M said:

I was watching a TV show about pools when a couple from Port Richey came on, and I spotted the coconut right away. It’s been there since at least 2016 when they put in the pool! Impressive to be this far north. 

It's gorgeous!