growth rate of Phoenix Canariensis

[Gbarce]

How long will it take to get  this Phoenix Canariensis from this (the sprinkler head is for size reference)

[Gbarce]

To this ?

[Gbarce]

To this?

[Carlo Morici]

With optimal conditions, fertilizer and irrigation, in the Canary Islands, it would take about 2 years from A to B and then 10 more years from B to C. In Mediterranean Sicily would take about twice this time.

Carlo, Tenerife

[Kris]

nice question and nice answer !

here is my CIDP and its one and half years old approx...

here is the still !

[Kris]

this one is a new commer to our terretory its CIDP red fruticas

Sp.and its around 4 months old.recently i had shifted it from a

pot to a bigger sized barrel !

[Arecaceus]

While they need warmth and sun to grow they actually seem to grow pretty fast even in the UK or Northern France for example. They are very drought tolerant but depending on the location within the Canary Islands they seem to grow the fastest in the wetter slightly elevated regions. In my experience they grow pretty slow in pots but pretty fast when they're planted out. If I have enough reference one day I will post a documentation of growth rate in my specific climate. It's a bit sad that this thread is dead since 2007 LOL

[KsLouisiana]

On 1/8/2023 at 6:18 PM, Hortulanus said:

While they need warmth and sun to grow they actually seem to grow pretty fast even in the UK or Northern France for example. They are very drought tolerant but depending on the location within the Canary Islands they seem to grow the fastest in the wetter slightly elevated regions. In my experience they grow pretty slow in pots but pretty fast when they're planted out. If I have enough reference one day I will post a documentation of growth rate in my specific climate. It's a bit sad that this thread is dead since 2007 LOL

I'm still reading it. Haha

[KsLouisiana]

Planted a baby CIDP.  The dogs were posi g organically.  Lol. Hoping for some quick growth. Any tips or growth projections would be appreciated 

Edited April 3, 2023 by KsLouisiana

[Arecaceus]

On 4/3/2023 at 5:21 AM, KsLouisiana said:

Planted a baby CIDP.  The dogs were posi g organically.  Lol. Hoping for some quick growth. Any tips or growth projections would be appreciated 

I'm guessing La means Louisiana. In your climate I would guess it will take off very fast after settling in. It also looks like you planted it very exposed to sunlight. The quality of the plant looks also very well. Water and fertiliser will be much appreciated by CIDPs. It will first grow much in width before height.

[Foxpalms]

On 1/9/2023 at 12:18 AM, Hortulanus said:

While they need warmth and sun to grow they actually seem to grow pretty fast even in the UK or Northern France for example. They are very drought tolerant but depending on the location within the Canary Islands they seem to grow the fastest in the wetter slightly elevated regions. In my experience they grow pretty slow in pots but pretty fast when they're planted out. If I have enough reference one day I will post a documentation of growth rate in my specific climate. It's a bit sad that this thread is dead since 2007 LOL

I agree with this. The ones in San Cristobal de La Laguna, which is above sea level and wetter than sea level, grow the fastest. The CIDP there look like the ones in London where they grow fast enough that the boots haven't fallen off yet, despite the palm being a good size.

[jgi27]

Check out this CIDP growth rate in Southern California 😀 I was looking for a nearby restaurant and saw this CIDP on Google street view.

2011
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2501016,-118.2906542,3a,75y,297.38h,64.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szcYyVVmoYUpmjx7M9fjO_w!2e0!5s20111001T000000!7i13312!8i6656

2022
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2501003,-118.2906038,3a,50.4y,279.83h,84.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPN0DR9R17YiYs3nJSUEJVw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It didn't grow that much in 11 years. If I have to guess, looking at the location, I don't think it was watered or fertilized. Looks like it was just planted there and left to fend for itself.

[KsLouisiana]

5 minutes ago, jgi27 said:

It didn't grow that much in 11 years. If I have to guess, looking at the location, I don't think it was watered or fertilized. Looks like it was just planted there and left to fend for itself.

No it did not! Haha. It looks really healthy but little growth.  It's pretty  cool to use Google Street view to watch growth rates of palms. Nifty little trick!

[Arecaceus]

On 4/24/2023 at 10:15 PM, jgi27 said:

Check out this CIDP growth rate in Southern California 😀 I was looking for a nearby restaurant and saw this CIDP on Google street view.

2011
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2501016,-118.2906542,3a,75y,297.38h,64.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1szcYyVVmoYUpmjx7M9fjO_w!2e0!5s20111001T000000!7i13312!8i6656

2022
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.2501003,-118.2906038,3a,50.4y,279.83h,84.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPN0DR9R17YiYs3nJSUEJVw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

It didn't grow that much in 11 years. If I have to guess, looking at the location, I don't think it was watered or fertilized. Looks like it was just planted there and left to fend for itself.

Might be a volunteer? It also looks like there is not a lot of space to expand in size, maybe even the roots. My first outdoor attempt with them was because it was growing out of the already big pot. I planted it out as an act of emergency. It never really took off and the main reason might have been that I didn't trim the pot bound roots. When I dug it out years later The root system looked still the same. No rootgrowth whatsoever. With my current experiment I chose a seedling, made a much bigger hole with the perfect soil mixture and it is the fastest growing CIDP I ever had. No comparison to pot growth or the one where I didn't trim the roots.

[Frankpalm]

On 4/24/2023 at 7:21 AM, Hortulanus said:

I'm guessing La means Louisiana. In your climate I would guess it will take off very fast after settling in. It also looks like you planted it very exposed to sunlight. The quality of the plant looks also very well. Water and fertiliser will be much appreciated by CIDPs. It will first grow much in width before height.

Is fertilizer a must when helping grow canary palm? What about when it’s fully mature is it still recommended to apply fertilizer? I am trying to save an over pruned canary date palm. 

[Arecaceus]

On 9/6/2023 at 11:33 PM, Frankpalm said:

Is fertilizer a must when helping grow canary palm? What about when it’s fully mature is it still recommended to apply fertilizer? I am trying to save an over pruned canary date palm. 

Not a must but it surely can help. You can fertilise them at any size. If the palm is only overpruned it should recover but it might take some time depending on how bad it is. A fair bit of fertiliser might help. But it depends on how little leaves it has and if it was recently planted or not.