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Jubaea x Syagrus hybrid

Collectorpalms

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Collectorpalms Grand Master

Collectorpalms

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In zone 8b Texas, huge collection of palms but need this one to cure my addiction.

jubaea x Syagrus suggestions anyone?

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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3 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

In zone 8b Texas, huge collection of palms but need this one to cure my addiction.

jubaea x Syagrus suggestions anyone?

Wow you just missed one local , well and so did I =/ Not even sure if Patric is still making these hybrids anymore. Haven't heard his name in awhile lately. I do know of a PT member who has one but it's in Arizona. Try @SailorBold he was selling one on ebay at one time 

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Collectorpalms Grand Master

Collectorpalms

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Thanks, Will ask. Anyony know about Patric anymore? 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Meangreen94z Grand Master

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Mule Palms of Mississippi claims to have done the cross in the past. I emailed them in January, never got a response, then their website changed to state “Nursery closed until February 2020”. You might try contacting them now to see.

https://www.mulepalmsofmississippi.com

Hferrell87 Community Regular

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Have about bunch of 1-gallon Jubaea x Butia x Syagrus R. 

PM if any interest and I can see what it would take to ship to you from Florida.

Thanks!

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necturus Experienced

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I just bought a tiny one from Patric, bringing my collection now to two.  He told me that his yield this year was very poor, so he doesn't expect many additional JxS in the upcoming year. I do not think anyone else is doing this cross and wouldn't trust anyone from the southeast claiming to have done so. Who in that region has a flowering Jubaea?

With that said, Patric has a lot of excellent hybrids with great potential for our region. If I were you I would reach out to him about one of his BxPJ crosses. I have two of each, and I think the most promising one so far is the Parajubaea torallyi cross. Mine are all still small, but this ones came very robust and seem to be growing, while the other ones are crawling along.

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Meangreen94z Grand Master

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What is his contact information? Thanks

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

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On 3/10/2020 at 8:30 AM, Hferrell87 said:

Have about bunch of 1-gallon Jubaea x Butia x Syagrus R. 

PM if any interest and I can see what it would take to ship to you from Florida.

Thanks!

I could be interested in 1 of these =) 

JxS is the top hybrid imo

T J 

RJ Grand Master

RJ

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On 3/8/2020 at 11:48 PM, Meangreen94z said:

Mule Palms of Mississippi claims to have done the cross in the past. I emailed them in January, never got a response, then their website changed to state “Nursery closed until February 2020”. You might try contacting them now to see.

https://www.mulepalmsofmississippi.com

Almost positive he gets those from Patric. There is no flowering mother Jubaea anywhere near Mississippi

RJ Grand Master

RJ

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On 3/10/2020 at 9:30 AM, Hferrell87 said:

Have about bunch of 1-gallon Jubaea x Butia x Syagrus R. 

PM if any interest and I can see what it would take to ship to you from Florida.

Thanks!

Are these [(JxB)xS] or [(BxJ)xS] ?

Hferrell87 Community Regular

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2 hours ago, RJ said:

Are these [(JxB)xS] or [(BxJ)xS] ?

JxBxS

RJ Grand Master

RJ

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13 minutes ago, Hferrell87 said:

JxBxS

Is the JxB and F1? I would be quite surprised if it is. That being said if it is an F1 I would be interested as well.  I'm only aware of a very few flowering JxB's F1 in FL and they are all very recently doing so. 

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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2 hours ago, Hferrell87 said:

JxBxS

Count me in for atleast 1 =) 

T J 

Hferrell87 Community Regular

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The Jubutia is an F3.

Hferrell87 Community Regular

Hferrell87

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Will be working with a gentlemen in the near future who has mature, flowering Jubaea x Butia F1 to hybridize with Butia, Syagrus Romanzoffiana, Schizophylla, Amara (if I can track down the pollen), Sancona, etc... looking forward to it!!

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howfam Rising Star

howfam

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On 3/16/2020 at 7:34 PM, Hferrell87 said:

Will be working with a gentlemen in the near future who has mature, flowering Jubaea x Butia F1 to hybridize with Butia, Syagrus Romanzoffiana, Schizophylla, Amara (if I can track down the pollen), Sancona, etc... looking forward to it!!

Have you considered prices for the various hybrids yet? Please post the price of each.

Hferrell87 Community Regular

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10 minutes ago, howfam said:

Have you considered prices for the various hybrids yet? Please post the price of each.

No, I haven't considered them yet... Will want to wait for the seed production and availability before placing price tags on them.

 

howfam Rising Star

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13 minutes ago, Hferrell87 said:

No, I haven't considered them yet... Will want to wait for the seed production and availability before placing price tags on them.

 

Okay. Keep us posted.

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Hferrell87 Community Regular

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3 hours ago, howfam said:

Okay. Keep us posted.

Will do. Thanks 

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8B palms Collaborator

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I was fortunate enough to get a couple of these from Patric(k) Schaffer in 2012. One went in the ground in the spring of 2014 shortly after I bought my house, the other languished in a pot until summer of 2018. So they are both the same age here is an update today. The larger is probably close to 16 feet to the top of the tallest frond the other a little over 6 feet. They don't get any special fertilization treatment just crappy Florida soil (sand).  The large one seen temps down to 21oF with no observed damage. The latest USDA climate zones moves me from 8b to 9a, as much as I want this to be the case I would rather be cautious, we do dip down into the upper teens about every 10 years or so with mid 20's for sure every year.  

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howfam Rising Star

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On 4/29/2020 at 8:14 PM, 8B palms said:

I was fortunate enough to get a couple of these from Patric(k) Schaffer in 2012. One went in the ground in the spring of 2014 shortly after I bought my house, the other languished in a pot until summer of 2018. So they are both the same age here is an update today. The larger is probably close to 16 feet to the top of the tallest frond the other a little over 6 feet. They don't get any special fertilization treatment just crappy Florida soil (sand).  The large one seen temps down to 21oF with no observed damage. The latest USDA climate zones moves me from 8b to 9a, as much as I want this to be the case I would rather be cautious, we do dip down into the upper teens about every 10 years or so with mid 20's for sure every year.  

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Beautiful hybrid.  Patrick Shaefer's latest list doesn't show this palm (JXS). Know of anyone else selling them?

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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2 hours ago, howfam said:

Beautiful hybrid.  Patrick Shaefer's latest list doesn't show this palm (JXS). Know of anyone else selling them?

I think he is the only game in town. Dream palm for me too , one day ill have one haha 

T J 

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Tropics Newbie

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Hi All,

I've recently joined Palmtalk to get more knowledge on my favourite palms, growing them and pushing zones. 

I'm interested in JxBxS if anyone has them to sell. I'm in England. 

Thank you

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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On 5/24/2020 at 10:21 AM, Tropics said:

Hi All,

I've recently joined Palmtalk to get more knowledge on my favourite palms, growing them and pushing zones. 

I'm interested in JxBxS if anyone has them to sell. I'm in England. 

Thank you

Welcome to PT where information is a plenty. This particular cross will be extremely hard to find as I don't believe anyone is making this cross anymore. Now (BxJ)xS on the other hand is still possible to get as Patric is still doing this cross but his inventory may be low or non existent =/ 

T J 

tropicalgarden Newbie

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Thank you for replying. I'm always reading up on different hybrids and there is a lot to catch up on I feel! How do I ask about Patrick's stock? Does he visit this forum by any chance? 

Have you grown any (BxJ) xS? 

TexasColdHardyPalms Grand Master

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We will have adequate inventory of jxs f1 in 2 years. It's a pet project of ours that should come to fruition in late early 2022. 

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

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27 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

We will have adequate inventory of jxs f1 in 2 years. It's a pet project of ours that should come to fruition in late early 2022. 

Count me in for some of these :drool:

T J 

necturus Experienced

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Damn man, you will be on to something huge. I would also be interested in these. 

Palmensammler Experienced

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World you also be able to ship seeds? For Germany it's impossible to get plants without Phyto.

Thanks

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tropicalgarden Newbie

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I prefer B involved in a cross I've realised. Any BxJ or JxB f2/f3 where you see more B characteristics will be my ideal palm. Any of these you have or likely to have in stock?

Thanks

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Collectorpalms Grand Master

Collectorpalms

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Bulb again.

Who has ANY hybrids Currently available? Or anything rare for zone 9 or 8b, To ship, Texas. 
Thanks, Ryan text 512.647.8357

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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rarepalmaddict Community Regular

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I'm looking for Jubaea Chilensis x Syagrus romanzofiana seeds, does anyone know any genuine provider source?

Thank you.

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

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@rarepalmaddictI dont believe there is anyone with a seeding tree in these circles. If there were, they would be a hot commodity. Patric is the only one I know of who is making this hybrid. 

T J 

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