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Trouble with Christmas palm

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Noticed these black things on my christmas palm on my new frond that just opened up, what is it? 

 

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GottmitAlex Grand Master

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Can you get a closer shot of one or several of the black anomalies?

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It’s called ramenta. Totally normal. 

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ok great to hear. was worried it could be something dangerous so i have kept it away from my garden. i will move it out there shortly once i get a pot. 

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Decided to just plant it in ground. Will be interesting to see if it survives with protection. here it is, no beaty yet but it is improving and putting out new growth. i also planted some bambo on the sides of it. 

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GottmitAlex Grand Master

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Do you have it Durango or Central America?

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2 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Do you have it Durango or Central America?

Durango. I just was in Guatemala for Vacation. yes this will definitly not survive up here without protection but i will get some frost cloth build a basic frame and heat it up in the winter. Likely to survive or does the project sound bad? you have one in TJ how is it doing?

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Durango. I just was in Guatemala for Vacation. yes this will definitly not survive up here without protection but i will get some frost cloth build a basic frame and heat it up in the winter. Likely to survive or does the project sound bad? you have one in TJ how is it doing?

Protected it sounds plausible. Mine, without protection (survived through three winters), recedes its leaves from pinnate to bifid after each winter and gets badly burned.

It's on life support. Pretty sure if it weren't for the southern facing wall behind it, it would have croaked during its first winter...

 

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pretty impressive that it survived. i Thought it grew a lot faster or is it the winter damage that is slowing it?. I got mine for 50 pesos or so, will be a nice little project to learn about protection of palms. Will be a nice annual worst case for me. 

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Adonidias are a no-grow (exposed to the elements) here in California/northern Baja: they're a tick or two more cold sensitive than coconuts (in our DRY Cali 10a/10b zone)

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1 hour ago, GottmitAlex said:

Adonidias are a no-grow (exposed to the elements) here in California/northern Baja: they're a tick or two more cold sensitive than coconuts (in our DRY Cali 10a/10b zone)

i see, i started thinking if coconuts would make it in Hermosillo. what do you think? 

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23 minutes ago, Palmfarmer said:

i see, i started thinking if coconuts would make it in Hermosillo. what do you think? 

Exposed? No way. Their best chance in Sonora is coastal. 

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31 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Exposed? No way. Their best chance in Sonora is coastal. 

how about cdmx? 

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3 minutes ago, Palmfarmer said:

how about cdmx? 

The latitude is perfect. But the elevation over there would be their downfall...

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20 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

Adonidias are a no-grow (exposed to the elements) here in California/northern Baja: they're a tick or two more cold sensitive than coconuts (in our DRY Cali 10a/10b zone)

They sould grow in SoCal Ive seen some mature specimens here in Morocco and we do have almost same climate as SoCal!
Ive also tried to grow them Ive 2 and 3 years old from seeds and they are doing not bad at all after winter! 

For me they are as cold hardy as Veitchias (Arecina and Johannis), coconut seems more difficult here since Ive tried twice from seed and lost them just after winter time !

 

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On 4/22/2020 at 3:34 AM, GottmitAlex said:

Protected it sounds plausible. Mine, without protection (survived through three winters), recedes its leaves from pinnate to bifid after each winter and gets badly burned.

It's on life support. Pretty sure if it weren't for the southern facing wall behind it, it would have croaked during its first winter...

 

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But although my Adonidias have never experienced cold,its leaves also recedes from pinnate to bifid.The new leaf is a real bifid leaf,the shape is like a “V”.It’s really strange!

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