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Lytocaryum Hoehnei

Laaz

By Laaz
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Laaz

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The second inground Lyto has sent up a flower stalk. Still nothing from the potted ones even though they are about the same size. This is the one that took 16F & had spear pull.

 

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And the other next to it with two flower stalks.

 

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That's super cool, seems pretty young to be flowering maybe? I didn't realize these palms were this cold hardy, I thought low 20's at best. I just acquired a Butia odorata x Lytocaryum Hoehnei from Patric, but its just strap leaf at this stage, hopefully it will turn out to be a nice hybrid.

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Laaz said:

The second inground Lyto has sent up a flower stalk. Still nothing from the potted ones even though they are about the same size. This is the one that took 16F & had spear pull.

 

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Wow 16f is impressive , was it a dry cold snap,  how humid was it at the time ? 

T J 

Laaz Veteran

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I threw a plastic tarp over it, we had freezing rain & then snow. After that it barley got above freezing for a week straight. No supplemental heat at all.

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

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2 hours ago, Laaz said:

I threw a plastic tarp over it, we had freezing rain & then snow. After that it barley got above freezing for a week straight. No supplemental heat at all.

Tough lil palm then. You try one of Patrics ButiaxLyto Hoehnei yet ? Seems like a great lil palm for small gardens for sure. At what temp will you be protecting in the future ? 

T J 

Laaz Veteran

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Haven't tried the hybrid, but will attempt to make my own with the pollen from these. If it is forecast to be a severe freeze I throw a tarp over them again.

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I would think with Butia as the mother in the mix of this hybrid the cold hardiness would be in the upper teens.  Anyone else out there growing Butia odorata x Lytocaryum hoednei? With any experience with cold hardiness?

necturus Experienced

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I think Matt in Dallas has a Butia x L. weddellianum. I think his burnt about 90% in the low twenties but came back. I don't think this particular hybrid has really been tested. I have a strap leaf that's in the ground here. Hopefully it'll never really be tested, though. :P

RJ Grand Master

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I don't know what to make of my BXHoehnei Hasn't done much. Wondering if I got one that wasn't a successful crpss. I think it was one of Patric's first batches. Purchased it maybe two years ago.  

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On 6/7/2020 at 1:18 AM, RJ said:

I don't know what to make of my BXHoehnei Hasn't done much. Wondering if I got one that wasn't a successful crpss. I think it was one of Patric's first batches. Purchased it maybe two years ago.  

Think you are right!

I've bought it b. paraguaensis X lyto(hoehnei guess) 2/3 years ago and turned up not sure what but anyway Patric was very kind and send me replacement of butia x lytocaryum hoehnei. Looks different so I have hopes it will turn to fine lil palm. 

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RJ Grand Master

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On 6/6/2020 at 4:56 PM, 8B palms said:

I would think with Butia as the mother in the mix of this hybrid the cold hardiness would be in the upper teens.  Anyone else out there growing Butia odorata x Lytocaryum hoednei? With any experience with cold hardiness?

How is your palm looking so far? Mind showing a picture of it so I can compare. 

 

Lazz, sorry didn't mean to hijack this thread. 

-RJ

 

 

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Laaz Veteran

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I think it's time to throw a couple on craigslst...

 

 

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DAVEinMB Grand Master

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@Laaz what were you asking for these again? I may have a spot for one...

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6 hours ago, Laaz said:

I think it's time to throw a couple on craigslst...

 

 

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I'd snatch one up in a heartbeat if they were shippable. 

Collectorpalms Grand Master

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Charleston, SC 1200 miles away. Whew! I can do 800 in a day.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

JohnAndSancho Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Collectorpalms said:

Charleston, SC 1200 miles away. Whew! I can do 800 in a day.

I'll buy one and give you a Marriott friends and family rate form :floor: Hell, I'll pay for your room.

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51 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I'll buy one and give you a Marriott friends and family rate form :floor: Hell, I'll pay for your room.

@Collectorpalms I'll pitch in on some gas , if you pick me 1 up too =) 

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T J 

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15 minutes ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

@Collectorpalms I'll pitch in on some gas , if you pick me 1 up too =) 

The Texas Connection :floor:

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

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4 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

The Texas Connection :floor:

:shaka-2:

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T J 

JohnAndSancho Grand Master

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"It will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine." - Wayne Campbell, Wayne's World. 

 

Looks fantastic Dave! 

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DAVEinMB Grand Master

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2 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

"It will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine." - Wayne Campbell, Wayne's World. 

 

Looks fantastic Dave! 

Thanks John! 

I figured this was prolly going to be one of the only (if not the only) opportunities to add one of these to the collection, so a trip to Charleston was had :D

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JohnAndSancho Grand Master

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2 hours ago, DAVEinMB said:

Thanks John! 

I figured this was prolly going to be one of the only (if not the only) opportunities to add one of these to the collection, so a trip to Charleston was had :D

I'm convinced they only exist in posts from @Laaz and @Pal Meir

Laaz Veteran

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Looks great Dave. Good seeing you again. Now protect that beast.

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Collectorpalms Grand Master

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13 hours ago, DAVEinMB said:

Thanks John! 

I figured this was prolly going to be one of the only (if not the only) opportunities to add one of these to the collection, so a trip to Charleston was had :D

Protect it and maybe you can provide your fellow palm talk members with some seeds! 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Laaz Veteran

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It is at the size my others started to flower. So far none have set seed, but hopefully this year they will produce some seed.

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DAVEinMB Grand Master

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6 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Protect it and maybe you can provide your fellow palm talk members with some seeds! 

I'd be ecstatic if I got viable seeds from this little beaut and the day I do I'll be happy to distribute amongst the club :D

DAVEinMB Grand Master

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6 hours ago, Laaz said:

Looks great Dave. Good seeing you again. Now protect that beast.

I hope to not let you down

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Swolte Veteran

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On 6/6/2020 at 3:56 PM, 8B palms said:

Anyone else out there growing Butia odorata x Lytocaryum hoednei? With any experience with cold hardiness?

There's very little information on this hybrid. I believe Patrick told me it hasn't been 'out there' yet for longer than 4/5 years. I am not sure what to think of it to be honest. My small specimen (~ 1" trunk diameter) did surprisingly well during the big Texas freeze (got down to 3F here). I protected it with a bit of straw and a single frost blanket (no heat protection!). It's in a small creek bed and so it has some natural protection from wind. It looked fairly undamaged and its pushing out leaves now. This is more than I can say for several other palms that received the same level of protection (and showed spear pull or severe fungal or leaf damage).

Let me know if you're interested in a pic.

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Laaz Veteran

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A little spring cleaning in the jungle.

 

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@Laaz looks damn good Todd. How many lytos do you have in the ground?

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9, need to find a spot for the last one.

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Plus some Insigne's, but they need to put on some size before they go in the ground.

 

 

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