Livistona victoriae "froggie hole"

[Rod]

Several years ago I bought some seed labled:  Livistona victoriae "froggie hole".  Any idea about this palm?  Is there a new name for this?

Rod

Phoenix

[aussiearoids]

Most likely just a location name , I will ask my mate who took the pics on the PACSOA site , he travels around the top end a lot .

[mike in kurtistown]

In Jan 2001, I obtained some of these in Florida through several contacts, but they were collected in habitat (boundary between Northern Territory and Western Australia) by "Dan the Turtle Man". Were labeled as Livistona victoriae and said to come from a place called "Frog Hole".

I had 7 or 8 come up and quickly develop into vigorous plants with greyish green leaves. Several of us Florida hands had a vigorous debate about these and decided that L. victoriae was something else. A concensus was to call these L. nasmophila, problem being that, although nasmophila has been published as a name by Dowe, the paper describing it has not been published. L. nasmophila is the former L. mariae ssp. occidentalis, but the palms I grew are nothing at all like L. mariae or L. rigida as seedlings.

Another complication is that the photos on the PACSOA site of "Livistona victoriae" are of at least two very distinct species, as evidenced by the degree of division of the leaflets.

I'd like to get some more seeds of this species if they are ever available again.

[mike in kurtistown]

Here is one photo I took of "Livistona victoriae"