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I have often seen it mentioned that the only Dypsis reliable in the Sonoran desert is Dypsis decaryi, the Triangle Palm. I also saw a mention in another thread that D. leptocheilos (Teddy Bear) has been known to handle temps above 110F...that seems a little hard to swallow but I do have a few seedlings that made it through the baking summer in dappled shade, and will eventually test them in the ground as well. I also successfully tested (in shade) this past summer in our Rancho Mirage garden some small plants of D. 'lafa' and D. 'Mayotte Island'; and a couple of small D. onalihensis 'Weepy' form (in morning sun), none of which showed any noticeable stress. Of course sun + intense heat are the biggest issues so time will tell how these handle a less protected situation. 

However, there is a very nice Dypsis lutescens in our neighborhood in Rancho Mirage, growing in full morning-to-mid-day sun, shaded only by a large Ficus tree to its west (just recently headed back rather severely, as you may notice). This does give it protection from the sizzling afternoon sun of July-August, but I wonder if it might even be able to handle such an exposure (though I'm sure at the cost of attractiveness). Here is a photo of the specimen a couple of blocks from our house, taken two days ago. Does anyone else have experiences, positive or negative, in the low deserts of California or Arizona, with various species of Dypsis?

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Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

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I’m in the inland empire riverside . I grow alot Of different dypsis . Prestoniana , mananjarensis robusta  few other ones . Last 2 years they have seen 120 degrees couple days in a row . Haven’t had any issues . I think for you . You would need some shade until they get good size to them . And loads of water during extreme heat . 

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That Lutescens looks great! I have one that is still very young and in shade. The two tallest palms in the clump are about 5 and a half feet tall the rest smaller. It has been a slow but steady grower that has split off at least two if not three new suckers in the 12 months in ground.

I am not as dry as you. In the San Gabriel foothills at 1600 ft elevation. Hot dry summers, I get on average 10-15 days of rain in winter sometimes as much as 18-20.

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On 11/11/2020 at 12:46 AM, mnorell said:

I have often seen it mentioned that the only Dypsis reliable in the Sonoran desert is Dypsis decaryi, the Triangle Palm. I also saw a mention in another thread that D. leptocheilos (Teddy Bear) has been known to handle temps above 110F...that seems a little hard to swallow but I do have a few seedlings that made it through the baking summer in dappled shade, and will eventually test them in the ground as well. I also successfully tested (in shade) this past summer in our Rancho Mirage garden some small plants of D. 'lafa' and D. 'Mayotte Island'; and a couple of small D. onalihensis 'Weepy' form (in morning sun), none of which showed any noticeable stress. Of course sun + intense heat are the biggest issues so time will tell how these handle a less protected situation. 

However, there is a very nice Dypsis lutescens in our neighborhood in Rancho Mirage, growing in full morning-to-mid-day sun, shaded only by a large Ficus tree to its west (just recently headed back rather severely, as you may notice). This does give it protection from the sizzling afternoon sun of July-August, but I wonder if it might even be able to handle such an exposure (though I'm sure at the cost of attractiveness). Here is a photo of the specimen a couple of blocks from our house, taken two days ago. Does anyone else have experiences, positive or negative, in the low deserts of California or Arizona, with various species of Dypsis?

 

Ive seen some Healthy ones at the Royal Palm Spa in Arcadia.    

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Whitfills Nursery in Southern Phoenix had some for sale even, 

On another note, Interestingly enough, Yuma has a fair amount of Dypsis Decaryi scattered around town.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6948954,-114.6385621,3a,27.1y,248.95h,88.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSRwioXdBLPueV-UzA0kWyw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6664836,-114.6410051,3a,28.9y,265.54h,88.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_yexJvDCnOH1X1RG0BI7Ng!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.7052664,-114.6567527,3a,32.5y,60.57h,87.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sel-MIULI-2CiWR2X6R-i-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.6650208,-114.629326,3a,27.1y,12.36h,86.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEuNNVIjHEOTUjNKWRYdUKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

 

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