Trachycarpus hate forum

[EastCanadaTropicals]

We talk about the things we hate about trachycarpus. Like the fronds, the trunk..etc

Also, Happy New Year to all of you!

[Brad Mondel]

Why would you hate this?

[PalmatierMeg]

I can't grow them but I have no reason to "hate" them. I find a well grown one quite attractive.

[Jim in Los Altos]

I love Trachycarpus martinianus and wagneriensis. I certainly don’t hate any of the others. 

[Jubaea_James760]

I like my little Waggy & Princeps 

[Merlyn]

I hate that I can't grow them here in Floriduh. 

[PalmatierMeg]

7 hours ago, James760 said:

I like my little Waggy & Princeps 

Awwww. They are cute.

[Reyes Vargas]

2 hours ago, Merlyn said:

I hate that I can't grow them here in Floriduh. 

Just curious why can't you grow them in Florida?  Is it a weather thing?

[Merlyn]

16 minutes ago, Reyes Vargas said:

Just curious why can't you grow them in Florida?  Is it a weather thing?

The prevailing wisdom is nematodes in the sandy soil kill them.  People have had limited success growing them in pots, but apparently they die almost immediately when planted in the ground.  I have seen only one large Trachy in Florida, at Green's Nursery in Apopka.  It's in a ~35 gallon pot and is 6' tall or so.  I've been tempted to buy it, but I'd hate to throw away money...

[PalmatierMeg]

9 minutes ago, Reyes Vargas said:

Just curious why can't you grow them in Florida?  Is it a weather thing?

Among other things. They are temperate rather tropical palms and do not adjust well to 6-7 months of hot, humid days and sweltering nights. They need a cool-off at night after a hot day but they don't get that here much of the year. I have read that when temps reach the upper 80s into the 90s they stop photosynthesis. True? I don't know. I've also read they are very sensitive to nematodes, another FL bane. I've heard that some people in (N?)FL have them but they are few and far between. I had one once back in 1993/94 when I was new to palms. I bought a "Windmill Palm" - common names aren't just silly, they are deceptive - at a BB garden center. I mistook it for a Coccothrinax because, well, they look alike, right? It survived over a year before carking. But it was miserable the whole time. I want to grow palms not torture them. 

[EastCanadaTropicals]

12 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

I can't grow them but I have no reason to "hate" them. I find a well grown one quite attractive.

They look ugly in hot summer climates.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

12 hours ago, Brad Mondel said:

Why would you hate this?

The fronds design, the rough trunk, they just don't look that tropical and it's so overcultivated! It's usually the only palm tree anyone grows in the north so it's very annoying. I get that it's a very reliable palm, but c'mon, grow something else, at least a needle. Needle palms and sabal minor aren't cultivated much in Canada compared to trachycarpus and I hate that!

[EastCanadaTropicals]

I hate the look on fronds on fourtunei, waggies are better but still, they only look that good in the pnw.

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[Brad Mondel]

I agree they're not the prettiest palm but any palm is better than none. 

[aztropic]

2 minutes ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

I hate the look on fronds on fourtunei, waggies are better but still, they only look that good in the mid Atlantic and pnw.

Saw some great examples of fortunei on a recent trip to Vancouver,Canada! (pnw?) Several homeowners in the area also had beautiful examples planted in their front yards. Palm trees growing, in the ground, in Canada,eh? Who would of thunk it?

 

aztropic 

Mesa,Arizona

 

 

[amh]

11 hours ago, James760 said:

I like my little Waggy & Princeps 

What's the reason for the cage?

Are palms not deer resistant?

[The Palm Nut]

I only have one and it does quite well even in shade, year round. Love the hairy trunk.

Pretty tough species the T. fortunei. 

[EastCanadaTropicals]

1 hour ago, aztropic said:

Saw some great examples of fortunei on a recent trip to Vancouver,Canada! (pnw?) Several homeowners in the area also had beautiful examples planted in their front yards. Palm trees growing, in the ground, in Canada,eh? Who would of thunk it?

 

aztropic 

Mesa,Arizona

 

 

Nice, I wish they looked like this in Quebec, but they usually only have like, 2 fronds.

[Chester B]

2 hours ago, Brad Mondel said:

I agree they're not the prettiest palm but any palm is better than none. 

Exactly - beggars can't be choosers.

[JohnAndSancho]

55 minutes ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Nice, I wish they looked like this in Quebec, but they usually only have like, 2 fronds.

Is it true that y'all all live in igloos up there? Lol 

 

Just kidding, Happy New Year. 

[Chester B]

3 hours ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

The fronds design, the rough trunk, they just don't look that tropical and it's so overcultivated! It's usually the only palm tree anyone grows in the north so it's very annoying. I get that it's a very reliable palm, but c'mon, grow something else, at least a needle. Needle palms and sabal minor aren't cultivated much in Canada compared to trachycarpus and I hate that!

That's not entirely true.  I knew of more needle palms than Trachycarpus in Southern Ontario, having lived there the first 40 years of my life.  Anyone who was interested in cold hardy palms usually had them because they were the hardiest, and easier to protect.  I personally had more needles and Sabal minors than Trachycarpus at any given time.

 

[EastCanadaTropicals]

1 minute ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Is it true that y'all all live in igloos up there? Lol 

 

Just kidding, Happy New Year. 

No, but we do live with polar bears lol.

 

[Palmfarmer]

A Trachy with a skinned trunk looks amazing 

 

[EastCanadaTropicals]

Just now, Palmfarmer said:

A Trachy with a skinned trunk looks amazing 

 

Yeah, but I still don't like the fronds but the skirt is cool.

[Palmfarmer]

1 minute ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Yeah, but I still don't like the fronds but the skirt is cool.

Maybe a Hybrid will help? Fortunei x Wagnerianus lets say

[EastCanadaTropicals]

Just now, Palmfarmer said:

Maybe a Hybrid will help? Fortunei x Wagnerianus lets say

Yeah, but at that point, they'd just be a washingtonia.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

I think their a beautiful palm when the trunks are skinned

[PalmTreeDude]

Don’t forgot that palms are adapted to their native habitat, so of course it is expected for them to not look great all the time everywhere else. Search up some pictures of them in their habitat in China. 

[Joe NC]

21 hours ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

We talk about the things we hate about trachycarpus. Like the fronds, the trunk..etc

I hate how awesome I think this palm will look once it is trunking (does that count).

T. wag x princ

[EastCanadaTropicals]

29 minutes ago, Joe NC said:

I hate how awesome I think this palm will look once it is trunking (does that count).

T. wag x princ

Hmm.. I like it better.

[Jim in Los Altos]

5 hours ago, Palmfarmer said:

A Trachy with a skinned trunk looks amazing 

 

At that age, the trunks “skin” themselves. 

[zimm]

23 hours ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

We talk about the things we hate about trachycarpus. Like the fronds, the trunk..etc

Also, Happy New Year to all of you!

May your blade chip and shatter.

[Jim in Los Altos]

I admit to removing nearly all my Trachycarpus fortunei to make room for more desirable species but have left this big one in my backyard to grow naturally with full skirt and reasonably nice canopy of leaves as shown in the photo. The other photos are of my T. martianus. I think they are the most tropical looking of the genus with their large bright green leaves. 

[Kailua_Krish]

5 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

I admit to removing nearly all my Trachycarpus fortunei to make room for more desirable species but have left this big one in my backyard to grow naturally with full skirt and reasonably nice canopy of leaves as shown in the photo. The other photos are of my T. martianus. I think they are the most tropical looking of the genus with their large bright green leaves. 

Martianus really are the best in the genus. They grow well in central FL too and look like a pretty green cocothrinax (where its too cold for them)

 

[Jubaea_James760]

On 1/1/2021 at 8:23 AM, PalmatierMeg said:

Awwww. They are cute

Thank you! 

[Jubaea_James760]

 

21 hours ago, amh said:

What's the reason for the cage?

Are palms not deer resistant?

Palms are not savage beast resistant aka Dahlia resistant (my dog) 

She'll destroy any of my palms if I don't cage them. She's only 2 years old so I'm hoping she'll out grow this stage soon.

[amh]

3 hours ago, James760 said:

 

Palms are not savage beast resistant aka Dahlia resistant (my dog) 

She'll destroy any of my palms if I don't cage them. She's only 2 years old so I'm hoping she'll out grow this stage soon.

Haven't had a dog problem yet, but I had a buck win his fight with date palm.

[Palmfarmer]

 

[EastCanadaTropicals]

On 1/1/2021 at 6:16 PM, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Yeah, but I still don't like the fronds but the skirt is cool.

Looks awesome.