Eastern Canada thread

[EastCanadaTropicals]

There is not a lot of Palmtalk members from Eastern Canada, so after I saw the Arizona thread, I decided it would be a good idea to have a thread exclusively, to really cold areas, zone 7a and below. 

[EastCanadaTropicals]

What do you think is the mildest part of all Eastern Canada, the Niagara Region of Ontario, or extreme south Nova Scotia, including Brier Island, Yarmouth, and nearby areas not too far inland.    

[Chester B]

15 hours ago, EastCanadaTropicals said:

What do you think is the mildest part of all Eastern Canada, the Niagara Region of Ontario, or extreme south Nova Scotia, including Brier Island, Yarmouth, and nearby areas not too far inland.    

That's a pretty easy one.  North end of St.Catharines through Niagara-on-the-lake and then down by Windsor and Leamington, once you get past Chatham.  Probably the mildest spot of all is Pelee Island

[Chester B]

Windsor isn't looking too hot right now.

 

Niagara-on-the-lake is doing better

My Dad lives in Fort Erie, and it generally seems to be a little milder in winter than NOTL, but a little cooler in summer.  Due to its close proximity to Buffalo being on the end of Lake Erie he does get hit by the streamers coming off the lake.  Fortunately the snow does not stick around for too long most times.

[NorCalKing]

Yeah, St Catharines comes to mind. You do get influence from the greta lakes. But, when the real cold slides out of the north, it's going to get really cold regardless.

[Chester B]

42 minutes ago, NorCalKing said:

Yeah, St Catharines comes to mind. You do get influence from the greta lakes. But, when the real cold slides out of the north, it's going to get really cold regardless.

Very true.  If you get a real cold spell and the lakes start to freeze around the edges it can really mess things up and suppress temps into spring.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

1 hour ago, NorCalKing said:

Yeah, St Catharines comes to mind. You do get influence from the greta lakes. But, when the real cold slides out of the north, it's going to get really cold regardless.

I think Brier island and some other island on the extreme southern part of Nova Scotia are warmer.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

4 hours ago, Chester B said:

Windsor isn't looking too hot right now.

 

Niagara-on-the-lake is doing better

My Dad lives in Fort Erie, and it generally seems to be a little milder in winter than NOTL, but a little cooler in summer.  Due to its close proximity to Buffalo being on the end of Lake Erie he does get hit by the streamers coming off the lake.  Fortunately the snow does not stick around for too long most times.

It's pretty cold here too.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

4 hours ago, Chester B said:

That's a pretty easy one.  North end of St.Catharines through Niagara-on-the-lake and then down by Windsor and Leamington, once you get past Chatham.  Probably the mildest spot of all is Pelee Island

Do you think berin peninsula is also mild? Some maps consider it only 6a, others 7a.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

These are the possibly warmest parts of Eastern Canada, I checked forecasts and other sources and extreme south Nova Scotia is milder than anywhere in Ontario, even Pelle Island. Here are screenshots. 

Edited February 5, 2021 by EastCanadaTropicals

[EastCanadaTropicals]

Shelburne currently seems to be the mildest. Cheers.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

Yeah turns out N.S has more snowfall and shorter growing seasons than St. Catherines, according to weatherspark. Except that Brier Island has a slightly longer growing season, and the snow can insulate anyways. I couldn't find weatherspark data of Cape Sable island, but it's probably a bit milder than even Brier Island.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

Montreal is looking to have decent weather

[NorCalKing]

Of course a marine influence will give an overall warmer outcome. But, the problem is these places are generally cooler in the summer. And many plants need more summer heat. This is why "overall" I think St Catharines is a better climate. It's also way further south, lending to higher UV/sun intensity.

[EastCanadaTropicals]

4 hours ago, NorCalKing said:

Of course a marine influence will give an overall warmer outcome. But, the problem is these places are generally cooler in the summer. And many plants need more summer heat. This is why "overall" I think St Catharines is a better climate. It's also way further south, lending to higher UV/sun intensity.

You're right, but for cool summer plants like arbutus trees, extreme south Nova Scotia is better. With a little protection, a Trachycarpus Wagneriarus in a sheltered spot in Brier Island would probably do better than in St. Catherine's. Cape Sable Island, in a very sheltered spot, might be the only place where an arbutus tree can grow unprotected in Eastern Canada. Except the humid summers.