Very Thick trunked coconut

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

Saw this coconut in Fort myers, trunk was thicker then the nearby royals,  have never seen one with such a wide trunk

 

Edited February 27, 2021 by Mr.SamuraiSword

[climate change virginia]

I have never seen a coconut like that must be a hybrid. Is there a better shot of the coconuts because maybe someone could identify what it could be hybridized with.

Edited February 27, 2021 by climate change virginia

[GottmitAlex]

I can see the coconut fruit on the palm.

I don't think it's hybridized with any non-coco nucifera.

One of my cocos has droopy leaves as well. Almost Kentia-looking.

 

[JASON M]

Not far at the Naples Botanical Garden

I wonder if they’re related!

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

On 2/27/2021 at 11:08 PM, JASON M said:

Not far at the Naples Botanical Garden

I wonder if they’re related!

Wow. How odd??

[ahosey01]

1 hour ago, Mr.SamuraiSword said:

Wow. How odd??

It’s almost got some Beccariophoenix type trunk characteristics.

[Ivanos1982]

it almost looks like a ravenea rivularis, but you can't cross that with a coconut can you?

[Xerarch]

Pretty sure it’s just a regular coconut, I keep waiting for someone more knowledgeable than myself to chime in and say what variety it is with that fat trunk and short fronds. No Inter-species hybridization going on here, but I do wonder what variety it is. 

[tacobender]

Maybe it is climate, all my cocos have huge trunks. Several different types in yard.

[Zeeth]

The Naples botanical garden one looks like Fiji Dwarf. The trunk on the one in the original post looks Fiji dwarf too, but the leaves don't look right. Could be a hybrid (Fiji x Malayan or something)

[Mr.SamuraiSword]

On 3/1/2021 at 11:51 AM, tacobender said:

Maybe it is climate, all my cocos have huge trunks. Several different types in yard.

Doubt it, every other coconut I saw in Fort Myers had the usual thinner trunk

[PalmatierMeg]

On 2/27/2021 at 4:02 PM, climate change virginia said:

I have never seen a coconut like that must be a hybrid. Is there a better shot of the coconuts because maybe someone could identify what it could be hybridized with.

People have tried to hybridize Cocos nucifera with palms in related genera. To my knowledge and despite suspect claims of success no intergeneric coconut hybrids exist. DNA tests that could prove they do have not been done and replicated. That's a pure coconut.

[PalmatierMeg]

On 3/1/2021 at 12:33 PM, Ivanos1982 said:

it almost looks like a ravenea rivularis, but you can't cross that with a coconut can you?

No.

[PalmatierMeg]

My late Dwarf Red Spicata Coconut had a base ~30" in diameter, the fattest I'd ever seen on a Cocos.

[sonoranfans]

Lots of water makes thick trunks in many palms.  The difference in a well watered royal can be 2x in trunk thickness when compared to the city landscape ones.  There may be a sprinkler head or irrigation leak nearby or it could be a water collection point.  Also taller palms tend to thin a bit in the trunk.  Those royals are taller than mine by 5-10', but the trunks are notably thinner.  

[PalmatierMeg]

2 hours ago, sonoranfans said:

Lots of water makes thick trunks in many palms.  The difference in a well watered royal can be 2x in trunk thickness when compared to the city landscape ones.  There may be a sprinkler head or irrigation leak nearby or it could be a water collection point.  Also taller palms tend to thin a bit in the trunk.  Those royals are taller than mine by 5-10', but the trunks are notably thinner.  

It got irrigation 2x per week and lots of rain in summer.

[pj_orlando_z9b]

I can't tell the diameter of that coco from the pic. Not sure what normal is but my coconut has only 4 ft of clear trunk and the base is about 15 inches. 

[Steve the palmreader]

On 2/27/2021 at 11:08 PM, JASON M said:

Not far at the Naples Botanical Garden

I wonder if they’re related!

Looks like a Fiji Dwarf

[paquicuba]

It's most likely a Fiji hybrid. I have one that is a beast, with a very fat trunk and a huge canopy.

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

13 hours ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

I can't tell the diameter of that coco from the pic. Not sure what normal is but my coconut has only 4 ft of clear trunk and the base is about 15 inches. 

WOW, those nuts PJ, and in Orlando!!!

John

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

I have seen photos of some varieties of Coconut Palms that have HUGE bases of the trunks.  I can't remember where the photos were taken, or what variety they are, but the bole at the base was MASSIVE in the photos, significantly more so than most varieties with the big swollen boles at the base!

John

[GottmitAlex]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

I have seen photos of some varieties of Coconut Palms that have HUGE bases of the trunks.  I can't remember where the photos were taken, or what variety they are, but the bole at the base was MASSIVE in the photos, significantly more so than most varieties with the big swollen boles at the base!

John

Same here. However, the ones I have seen have the bole regular sized, however, since they are so close to the ocean and have their roots exposed, the "trunk"  make them seem much wider than they really are. 

Example:

 

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

On 3/9/2021 at 1:16 AM, GottmitAlex said:

Same here. However, the ones I have seen have the bole regular sized, however, since they are so close to the ocean and have their roots exposed, the "trunk"  make them seem much wider than they really are. 

Example:

 

I have actually seen photos of bigger boles at the base than those in the above photos.

[Missi]

On 3/8/2021 at 7:54 PM, paquicuba said:

Please don't fall on the lovely Aroids, coconuts!