Zilker Gardens, Downtown Austin, Texas March 2021

[Collectorpalms]

Only 1 cycad with green. Also a couple small rare palms. 
Feb 2021, low around 10F.

[Collectorpalms]

[Collectorpalms]

[PricklyPearSATC]

10 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is the dead looking palm on the right? 

Below:  What is are the green stems? Bamboo? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PricklyPearSATC]

ID: Queen? 

[Collectorpalms]

42 minutes ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

ID: Queen? 

Nannorhops on this one.

[Collectorpalms]

45 minutes ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

 

An unlabeled Brahea, there was another Brahea that had life it in, think it was an Armata. 
bamboo palm was Chameadorea microspadix. So far no life on stems or ground.

[Collectorpalms]

Barton Springs nursery 

[Collectorpalms]

Filifera here is better than anywhere around That I located .... located south of downtown 

[Meangreen94z]

Did you get any shots of the cactus in the dry garden?

[Swolte]

1 hour ago, Collectorpalms said:

Barton Springs nursery 

Did they have any Riverside Sabal back in stock?

Thanks for these great pics!

[Collectorpalms]

4 hours ago, Swolte said:

Did they have any Riverside Sabal back in stock?

Thanks for these great pics!

No. Only had Sabal minor (fresh), Mexicana, Guatamala ( looked better than mexicana). They were covered with frost cloth for freeze, helped a tad. 
For sale (very limited) Windmills with crispy Spears. 1 saw palmetto, crispy spear, (fresh) washingtonia-? Staying clear of those! 
I got two Sabal Uresana. I had purchased Uresana there 10 years ago. They were the little less hardy blue green, my large one is alive and so worth keeping despite it not being ultra hardy! It is still a nice palm. There were two newer Uresana that looked different than the others and had no burn. I took both. Looked more pale blue. Also a minor and watermelon red texas yucca. 
Also picked up a mule at Lowe’s, oops!

Edited March 19, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[Collectorpalms]

3 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Did you get any shots of the cactus in the dry garden?

No. I saw scattered burned cactus, Yucas, agave anyhow.  I wanted  to mostly see the cycads. And the rare small palms.

Cycas Panz, was defoliated as all cycas, but already shooting out new growth. Only one too. Will have to go back in summer to see which cycads come back. 

[mulungu]

Thank you for these photos!  Is Trachycarpus takil the palm before or after the picture of the label?

[Collectorpalms]

The three picture after, it was laying on the grown. Fell over awhile ago and still had enough roots to live. So it was laying on the ground. I can say for certain it’s the real deal. I looked to see some differences, like the fiber, and it looked the same as Fortunei nearby. The Nanus has more damage than both. It was so far only place I have seen most Trachycarpus Fortunei with little to no Damage. So it was warmer here than just as little as a couple miles away. 

Edited March 19, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[NBTX11]

5 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Filifera here is better than anywhere around That I located .... located south of downtown 

Make sense.  All of the Filifera in New Braunfels are pushing green spears.  Mine has pushed out several healthy green fronds.

Robusta on the other hand, yikes.  I my short drive around today, I did not see one Robusta pushing out any green yet.  And I saw probably 100 of them.  I hope they start moving soon, otherwise it's not looking good.

[Collectorpalms]

3 minutes ago, NBTX11 said:

Make sense.  All of the Filifera in New Braunfels are pushing green spears.  Mine has pushed out several healthy green fronds.

Robusta on the other hand, yikes.  I my short drive around today, I did not see one Robusta pushing out any green yet.  And I saw probably 100 of them.  I hope they start moving soon, otherwise it's not looking good.

I am not seeing any Washingtonia hybrids doing anything in the Austin to CS corridor, the under 10F club, Only the likely pure Healthy large Filifera.

Ugh!

Edited March 19, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[NBTX11]

In the much less severe freezes of 2010 and 2011, I saw Robusta spears moving almost instantly, even though fronds were burned.

I am getting a little concerned.  I didn't live here in 1989.  It appears that the Robusta mortality rate is going up by the day.  We've had warm weather and we are seeing zero movement in Washingtonia Robusta, and they are heavily planted everywhere.  I haven't inspected Central SA.  I am only speaking of New Braunfels and NE San Antonio (Schertz, UC).  No movement on Robusta.

[PricklyPearSATC]

2 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

No. Only had Sabal minor (fresh), Mexicana, Guatamala ( looked better than mexicana). They were covered with frost cloth for freeze, helped a tad. 
For sale (very limited) Windmills with crispy Spears. 1 saw palmetto, crispy spear, (fresh) washingtonia-? Staying clear of those! 
I got two Sabal Uresana. I had purchased Uresana there 10 years ago. They were the little less hardy blue green, my large one is alive and so worth keeping despite it not being ultra hardy! It is still a nice palm. There were two newer Uresana that looked different than the others and had no burn. I took both. Looked more pale blue. Also a minor and watermelon red texas yucca. 
Also picked up a mule at Lowe’s, oops!

I wanna replace my med fan palm, (it was not planted properly in 2008, out for fear for the rhino beetle). I'm happy with a 1-3 gallon plant.  Maybe saw palmetto would fit the bill.  It's behind a bench in my front yard, not too far from the house itself. I think sabal minor would look too coarse.  (I already have about 5 in my front yard)  

I would prefer something about 5 feet. 

Maybe a needle would be good there..(Although it gets sunny in the winter) 

Were there any decent needles? 

[Collectorpalms]

5 minutes ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

I wanna replace my med fan palm, (it was not planted properly in 2008, out for fear for the rhino beetle). I'm happy with a 1-3 gallon plant.  Maybe saw palmetto would fit the bill.  It's behind a bench in my front yard, not too far from the house itself. I think sabal minor would look too coarse.  (I already have about 5 in my front yard)  

I would prefer something about 5 feet. 

Maybe a needle would be good there..(Although it gets sunny in the winter) 

Were there any decent needles? 

No needles. I know of three private nurseries in the area, and Barton Springs is most reasonable. I tried to go to The Great Outdoors, but there was no parking and a long line. They had large needles in the past. They seemed expensive a long time ago, but I’d pay $$ for anything green.

The other is the Natural Gardener, I didn’t go there, they had less palms previously, but other interesting things.
I would just call all three for a specific palm, it’s less hassle right now. People are buying plants like crazy.

I haven’t seen the front of my house in a decade. Lol 

Edited March 19, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[Collectorpalms]

 

[ChrisA]

I am starting to see movement in some W. Robusta in SA. It’s tough to tell with many of the taller ones that have not had the broken, dead fronds removed. But some of those that have been trimmed are starting to show as green center rising up.  This is true on Burr Rd and some I’ve seen in Alamo Heights.  Was in Southtown yesterday and nearly all robusta planted at the Flats at Big Tex are showing green. I’ve got seed from those suckers! It seems to me that those palms that have been neglected of care are the worst looking and those that have been cared for in nicer landscapes are looking better.  Filibusta survival rate must be almost 100% and most that I’ve seen look better than pure Filifera.  That hybrid is one hardy palm.  I hope they start to look better in the Austin to College Station areas.  Crossing my fingers!

[Meangreen94z]

12 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

No needles. I know of three private nurseries in the area, and Barton Springs is most reasonable. I tried to go to The Great Outdoors, but there was no parking and a long line. They had large needles in the past. They seemed expensive a long time ago, but I’d pay $$ for anything green.

The other is the Natural Gardener, I didn’t go there, they had less palms previously, but other interesting things.
I would just call all three for a specific palm, it’s less hassle right now. People are buying plants like crazy.

I haven’t seen the front of my house in a decade. Lol 

I stopped by the “Great Outdoors” today and they had 3 Coconuts in stock. Also 2 red Latania . Their hardy palms had been reduced to 2-3 Robusta, 1 Cerifera. They had 1 needle palm, but their prices are high for larger plants. 

[philinsydney]

13 hours ago, ChrisA said:

I am starting to see movement in some W. Robusta in SA. It’s tough to tell with many of the taller ones that have not had the broken, dead fronds removed. But some of those that have been trimmed are starting to show as green center rising up.  This is true on Burr Rd and some I’ve seen in Alamo Heights.  Was in Southtown yesterday and nearly all robusta planted at the Flats at Big Tex are showing green. I’ve got seed from those suckers! It seems to me that those palms that have been neglected of care are the worst looking and those that have been cared for in nicer landscapes are looking better.  Filibusta survival rate must be almost 100% and most that I’ve seen look better than pure Filifera.  That hybrid is one hardy palm.  I hope they start to look better in the Austin to College Station areas.  Crossing my fingers!

It would be nice if those tall robustas on the RiverWalk survived, as it looks like a special place. The smaller palms can be easily replaced, but not so those tall washies.

[Collectorpalms]

20 minutes ago, philinsydney said:

It would be nice if those tall robustas on the RiverWalk survived, as it looks like a special place. The smaller palms can be easily replaced, but not so those tall washies.

It’s looking like below 10F is the mortality line for Robusta. Riverwalk was around 10F ( up in the air) to 12F along the water. Think they will be ok. It was very close, and some may die later with weakened crowns.

Edited March 20, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[PricklyPearSATC]

20 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

No needles. I know of three private nurseries in the area, and Barton Springs is most reasonable. I tried to go to The Great Outdoors, but there was no parking and a long line. They had large needles in the past. They seemed expensive a long time ago, but I’d pay $$ for anything green.

The other is the Natural Gardener, I didn’t go there, they had less palms previously, but other interesting things.
I would just call all three for a specific palm, it’s less hassle right now. People are buying plants like crazy.

I haven’t seen the front of my house in a decade. Lol 

I broke down and went to Lowes tonight.   They had a 3 gal Med Fan Palm, but it was close to a 15 gal and the 15 gal had all this black mold on it, so I passed.

[NBTX11]

59 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

It’s looking like below 10F is the mortality line for Robusta. Riverwalk was around 10F ( up in the air) to 12F along the water. Think they will be ok. It was very close, and some may die later with weakened crowns.

I hope it’s a little lower than 10, but I haven’t seen any movement on Robusta and it’s starting to concern me. 

[Collectorpalms]

6 minutes ago, NBTX11 said:

I hope it’s a little lower than 10, but I haven’t seen any movement on Robusta and it’s starting to concern me. 

Look at the crown size of these two Washingtonia. The right one pretty close to the best you can get in my soil for a filifera, maybe with a hint of robusta. You’d think the one of the right would live, but so far nothing. It’s never even burned before.... I decided to water them. 

 

Edited March 20, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[Collectorpalms]

This Washingtonia Filibusta at Zilker did have green coming out, it was the only washingtonia there that I saw alive. The shadow hides the green. This was around 10F. I am thinking the one on the right sheltered it. 

Edited March 20, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[NBTX11]

I can't see any movement in my Robusta but the crowns are so high and it's covered in so many dead fronds, it's hard to tell anything.  At this point, I see nothing, though.  Meanwhile, my Filifera are growing green leaves like wild.  

[eevans]

On 3/18/2021 at 10:01 PM, Collectorpalms said:

Also picked up a mule at Lowe’s, oops!

A Mule at a Lowes in Austin? 

Which location?

[Meangreen94z]

I took a few pictures of the dry garden. The surprise winners appeared to be the Astrophytum Ornatum(damaged but alive) and the Ferocactus Glauscescens, which showed little damage. Unfortunately the Trichocereus Terscheckii is no longer with us. A couple Neobuxbaumia toppled, but one survived with burn at the growth point.

[nintendere]

On 3/18/2021 at 10:31 PM, Collectorpalms said:

Barton Springs nursery 

What kind of palm is the one in the second picture?

 

[PricklyPearSATC]

1 hour ago, Meangreen94z said:

I took a few pictures of the dry garden.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My victoria agaves sustained some pretty bad damage.  This one is unscathed. 

Edited March 22, 2021 by PricklyPearSATC

[Collectorpalms]

7 hours ago, eevans said:

A Mule at a Lowes in Austin? 

Which location?

Bastrop had 1 left, but all locations had at least 2, the first week of March. They went quick.

Edited March 22, 2021 by Collectorpalms

[Collectorpalms]

5 hours ago, PricklyPearSATC said:

My victoria agaves sustained some pretty bad damage.  This one is unscathed. 

Mine looks good but I covered it from the freezing precipitation.

[Collectorpalms]

5 hours ago, nintendere said:

What kind of palm is the one in the second picture?

 

They are calling it Sabal Minor var Brazoria. 

[Collectorpalms]

My Trichocereus Terscheckii and Neobuxbaumia died, I did not cover them but they were somewhat sheltered.

[Meangreen94z]

17 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

They are calling it Sabal Minor var Brazoria. 

I’ve wanted to ask someone but the workers I ran into didn’t seem very knowledgeable.  Any idea how old it is?

[Collectorpalms]

2 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

I’ve wanted to ask someone but the workers I ran into didn’t seem very knowledgeable.  Any idea how old it is?

Nursery was founded in 1986 according to their website. I saw one site say brazoria was discovered in the 1990s, then another that showed one planted in 1977. Not sure on this one. But the one we have the growth is pretty good that it could have been planted in the mid 1990s to attain that size. This one to me looks more like a Sabal Louisana and not a Brazoria.

The gentleman at Barton Springs said that previous Peckerwood garden Manager did recent DNA study on it and it was posted on this Instagram. Anyone want to look that up... I hope they did dna on the wild population and the right ones, as the small minors are in the area as well.

Edited March 23, 2021 by Collectorpalms