Post your Areca vestiaria palms

[bubba]

[John hovancsek]

This is a fast growing palm for me

[John hovancsek]

[bubba]

Blue Hawaii! Sweet!

[Kim]

I have a few. They are prolific germinators.

 

[John hovancsek]

3 hours ago, Kim said:

I have a few. They are prolific germinators.

 

I was hoping you were going to bless us with that amazing trail you have in your garden. Stunning 

[Kim]

Thanks John! 

[bubba]

Those blue Hawaii Areca vestiaria make the one’s in Florida look kinda silly!

[John hovancsek]

17 hours ago, bubba said:

Those blue Hawaii Areca vestiaria make the one’s in Florida look kinda silly!

I can’t tell you how many times I tried to grow this palm in Florida. So I wouldn’t call it silly, I would call it a miracle 

[palmsOrl]

What is it about this species that makes it such a tough grow in South Florida?

[John hovancsek]

1 hour ago, palmsOrl said:

What is it about this species that makes it such a tough grow in South Florida?

I think the rain here is all the time and we never see below 55 degrees at night

[ruskinPalms]

These are all gorgeous palms! So, what is the coldest low these can take before dying? And if they froze to the ground would they grow back from the roots? Also, can they take full sun for al least 2/3 of the day in winter? I have a very warm and sunny south facing wall on the back side of my two story house that gets lots of sun in the winter and is a very moist place overall. During the last advective freeze here in Jan 2018, some adonidias and heliconias in this spot were not burned or killed at all. If these have about the same hardiness as Adonidia, then I’d be willing to try the maroon clumping form 

[Palms Brisbane]

12 hours ago, ruskinPalms said:

These are all gorgeous palms! So, what is the coldest low these can take before dying? And if they froze to the ground would they grow back from the roots? Also, can they take full sun for al least 2/3 of the day in winter? I have a very warm and sunny south facing wall on the back side of my two story house that gets lots of sun in the winter and is a very moist place overall. During the last advective freeze here in Jan 2018, some adonidias and heliconias in this spot were not burned or killed at all. If these have about the same hardiness as Adonidia, then I’d be willing to try the maroon clumping form 

My understanding will die in anything not sub-tropical to Tropical.

[Kaname-kun]

I have several here in Fort Lauderdale, planted from 1 gals and over ten feet tall in 4 years. They are an easy grow for me. They are in the light shade of some giant bald cypress trees. 

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[The Palm Nut]

After the flood I had to cut back some of the palms to let in some light to dry things out, good time for photo's. These are some of mine, the tallest is about 30 years old from seedling. All others were a few years old when planted. I have lost a few due to cold but mostly these do fine in a northerly aspect on the Mid North Coast of NSW Australia

[Rick Kelley]

I don't think anyone would be happy with this palm if it froze to the ground once every three to five years and then tried to recover from the roots (if that is even possible).  The selling feature of this species is the amazing color of the crownshaft that develops as it matures and begins blooming.  If it has to start all over again periodically, it will probably never reach full color.  Plus, you really need those clumps of brilliant red fruit to get the full effect. And don't forget those incredible stilt roots! This is one species that just might be worth moving somewhere that's perpetually warm and wet.

 

[Palm Tree Jim]

Wish I could but they all died...…not surprised.

Great pictures all!

[redant]

On 4/25/2021 at 3:03 PM, palmsOrl said:

What is it about this species that makes it such a tough grow in South Florida?

On my third try now, these seem to be doing well, I water them above the regular irrigation and have added lots of organic material. The spot drains easily. So far so good, no problem with this past winter, we hit the upper 30's once or twice. Filtered sunlight.

[ruskinPalms]

2 hours ago, redant said:

On my third try now, these seem to be doing well, I water them above the regular irrigation and have added lots of organic material. The spot drains easily. So far so good, no problem with this past winter, we hit the upper 30's once or twice. Filtered sunlight.

What killed them on the other two tries? I hit around 27F to 28F in Jan 2018 in my area, but otherwise it has been above freezing here every other winter since i moved here in spring 2015. I doubt it was actually 27 in the spot where I would plant these as it is very sheltered from north winds and right against a south facing wall. Again, heliconias were untouched in this spot in Jan 2018. But, I doubt these are worth a try for me. Sigh...

[redant]

20 hours ago, ruskinPalms said:

What killed them on the other two tries? I hit around 27F to 28F in Jan 2018 in my area, but otherwise it has been above freezing here every other winter since i moved here in spring 2015. I doubt it was actually 27 in the spot where I would plant these as it is very sheltered from north winds and right against a south facing wall. Again, heliconias were untouched in this spot in Jan 2018. But, I doubt these are worth a try for me. Sigh...

One area was really to dry, so the next time I tried down in my swampy area, I think this was to wet. They seem to like constant to be constantly moist but not wet, not in standing water.

[palmsOrl]

I ordered this little Areca vestiaria orange form last night.  I actually prefer the look of both the leaves and the color of the crownshaft on the orange form. This small specimen looks almost pure red but based on the leaves it is definitely the orange form.

My understanding is that these are about as cold sensitive as Adonidia.  Definitely a 10b palm.

Based on Doug's experience, I will not keep it as wet as Cyrtostachys renda.

[palmsOrl]

Palm arrived in one day after being shipped.  A lovely young specimen if I do say so myself.  I am going to resist repotting it until it starts getting just slightly root-bound.

-Michael

[waykoolplantz]

great color

[JohnAndSancho]

Bumping an old thread. 

 

How thirsty are these as seedlings? I keep mine in a tray of water just like my lipstick baby and my Lyto, and the Areca seems to drink it all up in a night where the others take a few days. 

[miamicuse]

Bought an Areca vestiaria Red Form to try,

I have always heard that this palm is challenging in Florida for many so not sure this is a good idea, but will give it a try,

I would like to put it into the ground at a spot with filtered light.

I have seen these in a solitary form and clustering form, are the stilt roots exclusive to the solitary form?

Any guidance as to what soil mix is best when planting into the ground would be splendid...I am in south Florida...can it take an occasional low 40s high 30s?

[Kaname-kun]

For me, in your neighborhood, this red clumping form has not been as vigorous as the orange solitary trunk form. I have two large red clumping ones but have lost many smaller ones. My suggestion would be to leave it in a pot (transplant to a larger pot if/when necessary) until it is four or five feet tall. Put the pot where you plan to plant it eventually.  I have had mine in the ground since 2017, and none of our winter weather has bothered them.

They both grow stilt roots when they get larger. If you like stilt roots, try Verschaffeltia splendida. 

[miamicuse]

16 hours ago, Kaname-kun said:

For me, in your neighborhood, this red clumping form has not been as vigorous as the orange solitary trunk form. I have two large red clumping ones but have lost many smaller ones. My suggestion would be to leave it in a pot (transplant to a larger pot if/when necessary) until it is four or five feet tall. Put the pot where you plan to plant it eventually.  I have had mine in the ground since 2017, and none of our winter weather has bothered them.

They both grow stilt roots when they get larger. If you like stilt roots, try Verschaffeltia splendida. 

Thanks Jeff, I'll keep it in a pot until 4-5 feet before planting then.  Keeping fingers crossed.

[peachy]

On 11/14/2023 at 4:54 PM, JohnAndSancho said:

Bumping an old thread. 

 

How thirsty are these as seedlings? I keep mine in a tray of water just like my lipstick baby and my Lyto, and the Areca seems to drink it all up in a night where the others take a few days. 

I only have a tiny seedling but it is as thirsty as a full grown palm. I water it every day.

Peachy

 

[amazonman]

Okey people I am so jealous 😂 

Where can I get them?  I am in SoCal 

[Kaname-kun]

You can always order them from Jeff Marcus at Floribunda.

[Kaname-kun]

Here are some of mine. Three in the first photo, one single two clumping.

The clumper in the photo above up close. About 5 feet. 

 

A single trunk. 

Another clumper, close to 6 feet.

[Hurricanepalms]

@Kaname-kun beautifully grown,much less in Florida. Impressive!

[miamicuse]

18 hours ago, Kaname-kun said:

Here are some of mine. Three in the first photo, one single two clumping.

Jeff I have always heard the solitary ones referred to as "orange craft",  yours is almost maroon/burgundy, stunning!  Does the solitary grow at the same rate as the clumping red?

[Brad52]

I can affirm that they are not fond of all day sun on lava with no supplemental water-even east Hawai’i full sun a bit much.  I trimmed many sad leaves for the photos and on a tiny offset found a wee moldy flower?

Biggest one is about 3 years from a 3 gallon I think.

 

[Kaname-kun]

6 hours ago, miamicuse said:

Jeff I have always heard the solitary ones referred to as "orange craft",  yours is almost maroon/burgundy, stunning!  Does the solitary grow at the same rate as the clumping red?

 

6 hours ago, miamicuse said:

Jeff I have always heard the solitary ones referred to as "orange craft",  yours is almost maroon/burgundy, stunning!  Does the solitary grow at the same rate as the clumping red?

I agree that it is more common to see solitary A. vestiaria labeled orange crownshaft, but I have also seen red solitaries and both red and orange clumpers. There seems to be quite a bit of individual variation. 

[miamicuse]

On 3/28/2024 at 5:44 PM, Kaname-kun said:

 

I agree that it is more common to see solitary A. vestiaria labeled orange crownshaft, but I have also seen red solitaries and both red and orange clumpers. There seems to be quite a bit of individual variation. 

I will definitely be more mindful especially when ordering stuff online as I assumed if it's label "Areca vestiaria orange crownshaft" it's the solitary version and if it's labeled "Areca vestiaria red form" is the clustering version which now I learned is not always the case.  Good to know thanks Jeff!

[Kaname-kun]

“Red form” is used to refer to a variety that has reddish or maroon young leaves. I have only seen this as a clumper.

What I meant to say is that you can find single trunk A. vestiaria with very deep red crownshafts, with dark orange, light orange, yellow, and there’s even a photo of one with a green Crownshaft on Palmpedia  (maybe a bad photo?) Also, the clumping habit is not restricted to the red leaf form. There are also green leaf orange crownshaft clampers.

You really have to look at each plant, and the color of the crownshaft can also develop over time.

Palmpedia calls it one of the most variable species there is. 

[Billeb]

For documentation purposes to look back on at a later date, here’s my small Vestiaria planted out a month ago or so.  These aren’t a sure bet in SoCal so hopefully it does ok. 
 

-dale 

[miamicuse]

On 3/30/2024 at 1:52 PM, Kaname-kun said:

“Red form” is used to refer to a variety that has reddish or maroon young leaves. I have only seen this as a clumper.

What I meant to say is that you can find single trunk A. vestiaria with very deep red crownshafts, with dark orange, light orange, yellow, and there’s even a photo of one with a green Crownshaft on Palmpedia  (maybe a bad photo?) Also, the clumping habit is not restricted to the red leaf form. There are also green leaf orange crownshaft clampers.

You really have to look at each plant, and the color of the crownshaft can also develop over time.

Palmpedia calls it one of the most variable species there is. 

I found two A. vestiaria that are solitary!  The tag says "Areca vestiaria" doesn't say red orange maroon or otherwise.  Should be interesting to see both variants grow.

[happypalms]

Nice palms it seems iam a few years behind but one day 🌱🌴