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Arenga engleri

WaianaeCrider

By WaianaeCrider
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Beautiful palm that has been in the ground since 2005.  Bought as 1 gal from FloraBunda.2110429341_Arengaengalari0.thumb.jpg.380580fb095508a73a8590e13e0af51d.jpg

2006

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2008

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2009

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Jump ahead 10 years to 2019

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Collectorpalms Grand Master

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This palm does excellent in Galveston. Gigantic one at Moody Gaardens. I had a Arenga Micranthra survive 4*F in February 2021, and my somewhat less protected Engleri hasn’t so far. I am about 150 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico. They Love heat humidity and rain. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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Slow there in Waianae, I used these pretty extensively in my 9a Florida garden and they have done very well surviving temps <20F. I think they like a good amount of water.

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-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

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Yes, beautiful when young and in adolescence, but often an impenetrable messy clump when established (like a lot of clumping palms).

I don't mean to be negative but I once helped a friend tidy up his clump, we could not get to the middle to take out all of the dead fronds. It was over six feet across.

But to be fair, I don't know how many decades it took to get to that size. 

I have sprouted the seeds and given them all away with the appropriate warnings as I saw it. The seedlings have really cute/different ragged looking leaves.

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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Palm Tree Jim Grand Master

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This was mine back in 2010. Strong grower here in Southern California but I did remove it as it continued to spread out. 

Give them some space and enjoy.

 

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WaianaeCrider Grand Master

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6 hours ago, gtsteve said:

Yes, beautiful when young and in adolescence, but often an impenetrable messy clump when established (like a lot of clumping palms).

I don't mean to be negative but I once helped a friend tidy up his clump, we could not get to the middle to take out all of the dead fronds. It was over six feet across.

But to be fair, I don't know how many decades it took to get to that size. 

I have sprouted the seeds and given them all away with the appropriate warnings as I saw it. The seedlings have really cute/different ragged looking leaves.

This will never get "a lot" of water.  Not here on the west side.  LOL  Well some winters I might get 10 inches a month, but probably only one month a year will get that much.  My only regret is I planted it at the edge of a bed and it's getting a bit difficult to get past and there is a 3' drop just off the 1 1/2 foot wide path.  LOL

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  Here' s mine which has been in ground since 1998.  They're a tough palm which can tolerate sub zero  & very hot temperatures equally as well.

 

 

 

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Here’s one of mine

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@WaianaeCrider Arenga engleri are tough, and great for barriers, kinda like big, scowling mokes standing at the front gate, arms crossed. . . .

 

I have a line of them at the western edge of my place and they block the view the World's Ugliest Roof quite effectively.

They really appreciate a lot of water, but they'll also survive drought, almost like Chamadorea radicalis, the Mexican Moke Palm . . . .

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On 4/27/2021 at 5:00 AM, gtsteve said:

Yes, beautiful when young and in adolescence, but often an impenetrable messy clump when established (like a lot of clumping palms).

I don't mean to be negative but I once helped a friend tidy up his clump, we could not get to the middle to take out all of the dead fronds. It was over six feet across.

But to be fair, I don't know how many decades it took to get to that size. 

I have sprouted the seeds and given them all away with the appropriate warnings as I saw it. The seedlings have really cute/different ragged looking leaves.

They do need their maintenance, or a home where looks are less important. Those dead leaves can make a nice barrier and mask an ugl[ier] view.

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On 4/27/2021 at 1:28 AM, Collectorpalms said:

This palm does excellent in Galveston. Gigantic one at Moody Gaardens. I had a Arenga Micranthra survive 4*F in February 2021, and my somewhat less protected Engleri hasn’t so far. I am about 150 miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico. They Love heat humidity and rain. 

Your engleri hasn't died? If so, wow.

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22 hours ago, WaianaeCrider said:

This will never get "a lot" of water.  Not here on the west side.  LOL  Well some winters I might get 10 inches a month, but probably only one month a year will get that much.  My only regret is I planted it at the edge of a bed and it's getting a bit difficult to get past and there is a 3' drop just off the 1 1/2 foot wide path.  LOL

Your palm can be dug and moved. I dug and moved one about 10 years ago, and it was about half again the size of yours. It's heavy, but with care, a doable move. Extra water and a bit of fert help, plus shielding from too much wind till it reestablishes.

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On 4/27/2021 at 6:04 AM, Palm Tree Jim said:

This was mine back in 2010. Strong grower here in Southern California but I did remove it as it continued to spread out. 

Give them some space and enjoy.

 

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Very nice specimen! How long did yours take to get to this size? What was the top width on this one prior to removal?

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