L itapebiense fruiting

[Pal Meir]

Will these still unripe 14 fruits also produce viable seeds?

[Pal Meir]

The 4 (of 15, not 14) most developed fruits:

[Scott W]

Wow, very nice @Pal Meir

Hoping someday to be able to add this to my collection as well.

[Laaz]

How are the seeds coming along?

[Pal Meir]

21 minutes ago, Laaz said:

How are the seeds coming along?

……

[Pal Meir]

The new 8 fruits of the 2nd inflorescence of N°1601 don’t look so happy: 

[Pal Meir]

………… can’t wait: 

[Pal Meir]

Now only 14 fruits left …

[Scott W]

Definitely looks like there's hope!

[Pal Meir]

Hmm, only six (6) fruits on N°1601 …: 

 

But the 2nd inflorescence of N°1604 looks much more hopeful: 

[Pal Meir]

And the next one fruiting: 

 

The 2nd inflorescence of N°1604 looking still hopeful: 

 

Update of the other inflorescences: 

N°1601-2nd: only 5 fruits; N°1604-1st: still 14 fruits

[Pal Meir]

Update 2021-08-28:

N°1604 #1: 13 fruits (still green); N°1601 #2: 5 fruits; N°1603 #1: 4 fruits

N°1604 #2: 33 fruits ???  ???

[Pal Meir]

6 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

Update 2021-08-28:

N°1604 #1: 13 fruits (still green); N°1601 #2: 5 fruits; N°1603 #1: 4 fruits

N°1604 #2: 33 fruits ???  ???

Oops: N°1604 #2: 34 fruits ???  ???

[Pal Meir]

The next fruit from N°1604 #1 has fallen down, so there are only eleven left, but in contrast to the former two it is denser than water:

 

And this is the update of the four fruit bearing inflorescences:

N°1604#1: 11; N°1601#2: 5; N°1603#1: 3; N°1604#2: 26.

[Tyrone]

You’re doing a remarkable job in keeping this species from going completely extinct and documenting it well. Keep up the good work. 

Ive just had some S hoehnei seed come up and I’m following your information to keep them going. 

[Pal Meir]

Here the photos to that update:

[Pal Meir]

Once more the first photo with the correct numbers: 2+3+2+4

[Pal Meir]

Update! 

Drying before ripening?

 

Now yellowing:

 

Still 24 (!) fruits:

 

Only 3 left:

 

Still waiting for N°1604#3, N°1601#3, and N°1603#2. 

[Pal Meir]

Dried fruit from N°1604#1 & yellowing fruit from N°1601#2: 

 

[Pal Meir]

Good news: 

 

Bad news: 

[Pal Meir]

Two fat ripe fruits:  

»Fruit conical, 1.2–1.5 × 0.9–1.1 cm, red to reddish-orange when mature, glabrous, epicarp less than 0.5 mm thick, mesocarp 2–2.5, mm, succulent and fibrous, composed of two layers, an out red or orange fleshy part ca. 1.5 mm thick with an inner white fibrous layer 0.8–1 mm thick; endocarp 1.0–1.3 × 0.6–0.7 cm, very thin, less than 0.5 mm thick; seed ellipsoid, ca. 10–12 × 5–6 mm, endosperm homogeneous.« (Noblick 2017: A revision of the genus Syagrus (Arecaceae), p. 122)

[Pal Meir]

Will these shrinking fruits have viable seeds? 

[Pal Meir]

The seeds of the 3 shrunk fruits; cf.: »endocarp 1.0–1.3 × 0.6–0.7 cm« (Noblick 2017: A revision of the genus Syagrus (Arecaceae), p. 122)

Are they viable? The size seems to be ok …

[Tyrone]

7 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

The seeds of the 3 shrunk fruits; cf.: »endocarp 1.0–1.3 × 0.6–0.7 cm« (Noblick 2017: A revision of the genus Syagrus (Arecaceae), p. 122)

Are they viable? The size seems to be ok …

Do they sink in water? 

[Pal Meir]

15 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Do they sink in water? 

Yes, they do.

Update of the still unripe 24 (!) fruits from N°1604 #2:

[Pal Meir]

The 3 fruits of N°1603 will be the next candidates:

[Pal Meir]

No success so far, all seeds dried up before they could ripen. 

And 2 weeks later: 

Now I hope that these two fruits will really ripen and produce viable seeds: 

[Tyrone]

13 minutes ago, Pal Meir said:

No success so far, all seeds dried up before they could ripen. 

And 2 weeks later: 

Now I hope that these two fruits will really ripen and produce viable seeds: 

The last two are looking good.

[Pal Meir]

14 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

The last two are looking good.

These two fat fruits were looking still better, but no germination so far … 

[Pal Meir]

Happy Easter! Frohe Ostern! 

[Pal Meir]

No germination success, maybe because pollen and fruit come from the same plant? 

[Tyrone]

8 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

No germination success, maybe because pollen and fruit come from the same plant? 

Maybe, or it’s just practising. Maybe the embryo didn’t fully develop. Hopefully it will flower again for you. 

[Pal Meir]

12 hours ago, Tyrone said:

Maybe, or it’s just practising. Maybe the embryo didn’t fully develop. Hopefully it will flower again for you. 

I am now waiting for the inflorescences of N°1601#5 (or #6?) and N°1603#5.

N°1604 was on the verge of dying (like N°1602 before) for whatever reason last winter and had lost all its fronds; now it has only one single full frond and one leaf spear.

[Pal Meir]

Will we get viable seeds this time? 🤔

[Eric33]

Good luck !!! 😉

[Pal Meir]

The prophyll has burst open and the first male flowers have already opened.

[Pal Meir]

Once again a (better) closeup of the seeds which didn't germinate:

[Pal Meir]

Will I have better luck this time? 🤔

[Navarro]

🤞

[Pal Meir]

Update: