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Old frond bases


JLM

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My biggest Queen has several old frond bases close to the ground, and to be honest, this specific palm doesnt seem to be trying to achieve any height anytime soon. The main question is, would there be any harm in taking these off? Its still relatively young, but it has quite a few dead frond bases. If these can come off, they are coming off tomorrow, i dont like the look off all the dead stuff at the bottom. Although, if it could hurt the palm in any way, i will just have to get over it. Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Palms - Adonidia merillii1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis3 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta1 Wodyetia bifurcata
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Don’t force them off.  Just give them a tug to see if they are ready. They come off very easily when they are ready to shed.

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I have had success with a box cutter removing dead boots. If you adjust the blade not too deep, take your time going around the lowest dead area, no harm can be done.

Greg, is right they will come off when they are ready, don't force them off.

But I have found that they come off willingly when asked to by my little friend 'Stanley' .

And they do look better.

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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I just use my loppers and cut as close to the trunk as possible, removing the majority of the dead stuff, then let nature do the rest of the work.

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11 hours ago, The Gerg said:

Don’t force them off.  Just give them a tug to see if they are ready. They come off very easily when they are ready to shed.

 

9 hours ago, Steve Mac said:

I have had success with a box cutter removing dead boots. If you adjust the blade not too deep, take your time going around the lowest dead area, no harm can be done.

Greg, is right they will come off when they are ready, don't force them off.

But I have found that they come off willingly when asked to by my little friend 'Stanley' .

And they do look better.

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5 hours ago, Scott W said:

I just use my loppers and cut as close to the trunk as possible, removing the majority of the dead stuff, then let nature do the rest of the work.

Ill go outside in a minute and try. I have another totally unrelated question though. National Weather Service is calling for excessive heat tomorrow and Saturday, heat index as high as 115F is expected. Will my Bottle Palm get cooked? I feel like i should probably bring it up into the shade, yall have any experience with this?

Palms - Adonidia merillii1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis3 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta1 Wodyetia bifurcata
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The Bottle Palm answered my question, its starting to yellow up a bit, and the forecast keeps getting worse. Heat Index forecasted to reach 116F on Saturday., with a real temperature of 98F. Excessive Heat Warning is in effect for tomorrow. 

For the original issue, I was able to pull one frond base off with not much effort, the rest wouldnt give, so i cut them down lower so they dont stick out as much. Thanks for all the information!

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Palms - Adonidia merillii1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis3 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta1 Wodyetia bifurcata
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I use these small tin snips to trim bottle and spindle boots for that smooth look. They are tough and I can keep off the trunk with them.  Sometimes I have to cut down the old leaf base into 3rds, then cut the 3rds off at the trunk.  That seems to work best for mine.  
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I pull mine back gently, peek down, if fire ants are living in it I pull them off forcefully. If not I leave it alone until they pretty much fall off.

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4 minutes ago, D Palm said:

I pull mine back gently, peek down, if fire ants are living in it I pull them off forcefully. If not I leave it alone until they pretty much fall off.

My second largest Queen, which will soon be the largest one if this growth continues, has fire ants in one of the boots. The problem is though, the bottom half of the boot is still living, so i cant cut/pull it off at all. Would ant poison hurt the palm? It didnt seem to hurt my Bismarckia seedling.

Palms - Adonidia merillii1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis3 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta1 Wodyetia bifurcata
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I have found that any 'residual' ant/cockroach' type sprays great for ants and mealy bug etc. and none have appeared to hurt my palms. 

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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7 hours ago, Steve Mac said:

I have found that any 'residual' ant/cockroach' type sprays great for ants and mealy bug etc. and none have appeared to hurt my palms. 

The stuff we have is powder, seems to work very well once it has been able to sit for a day or two. Will try today, since rain chances go way up after this weekend.

Palms - Adonidia merillii1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chambeyronia macrocarpa1 Hyophorbe lagenicaulis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis3 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta1 Wodyetia bifurcata
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I used the andro ant bait if the frond is no where near ready to come off.  They are bad to infest trees this time of year because of the flooding rains.  I despise fire ants.

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