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Trachycarpus "Bulgaria" X "Nainital"

N8ALLRIGHT

By N8ALLRIGHT
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N8ALLRIGHT Proficient

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Yep, another impulse purchase off eBay

Arrived yesterday and it's beeyuuutiful!

Modestly priced and well packaged. Advertised as a 1 gallon, looks more like a 3. Even shipped with soil:greenthumb: To be honest I don't really know what "Nainital" is supposed to look like other than a thicker trunk and robust growth. I have a Bulgaria,it is much more compact in growth as opposed to this cross. Leaves both have the rigid cardboard feel. Anyway I just wanted to share it. 

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Jimhardy Mentor

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Looks like it was grown in some shade...I bet once

it gets going in the sun it will be much more compact and should

be a really stout looking palm...I saw some Nanus x Wagnerianus on

E-Bay too,it was tough to lay off!:D

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N8ALLRIGHT Proficient

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Yes I wondered if it was shade grown or if petioles on Nainital were longer,so I messaged the seller and they confirmed shade grown.

I'd seen the nanus x waggies had to use some restraint

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LOL.  I am feeling a slight pull to look at them again...better call my sponsor 

quick...his name is Carl Pool

 

 

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When that palm gets going post some pics,I bet it

will blossom into quite a nice looking palm...."not that theres anything wrong with it"

 

Ok. (my sponsor didn't answer) I couldn't resist and looked at the Nanus x Waggy luckily its growing in the ground and the picture

was fuzzy so I was able to resist...close one

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I bought one of these as well, they look so nice. I was a little worried about planting it so late but I guess I’ll just have to protect it really well this winter.

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Stevejr Rookie

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Is there a difference between Trachycarpus Wagnerianus X ‘Nainital’ and Trachycarpus Bulgaria X ‘Nainital’? Which one is hardier?

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steve617 Community Regular

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2 hours ago, Stevejr said:

Is there a difference between Trachycarpus Wagnerianus X ‘Nainital’ and Trachycarpus Bulgaria X ‘Nainital’? Which one is hardier?

I would think the Bulgaria x Nanital would be a little more cold hardy. The waggie x nanital should have shorter and stiffer fronds. Probably a little slower growing. 

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Waggies are less hardy. Period. 

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Longview, Texas :: Record Low: -5F, Feb. 16, 2021 :: Borderline 8A/8B :: '06-'07: 18F / '07-'08: 21F / '08-'09: 21F / '09-'10: 14F / '10-'11: 15F / '11-'12: 24F / '12-'13: 23F / '13-'14: 15F / '14-'15: 20F / '15-'16: 27F / '16-'17: 15F / '17-'18: 8F / '18-'19: 23F / '19-'20: 19F / '20-'21: -5F / '21-'22: 20F / '22-'23: 6F

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I don't believe anyone has provided solid evidence that bulgaria's are more hardy than regular fortunei.  To my limited knowledge, the regular-ol' vanilla Trachycarpus fortunei is the hardiest trunking palm.  Unless you count old sabal minors or R hystrix that have developed trunks.  

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35 minutes ago, Jesse PNW said:

I don't believe anyone has provided solid evidence that bulgaria's are more hardy than regular fortunei.  To my limited knowledge, the regular-ol' vanilla Trachycarpus fortunei is the hardiest trunking palm.  Unless you count old sabal minors or R hystrix that have developed trunks.  

Don’t forget Sabal Birmingham, takes a long long time to trunk, but when it does it’s a contender for sure 

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There are so many wonderful Sabals I know nothing about.  I feel like I never get a good understanding of a palm until I have one and get to know it. 

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teddytn Grand Master

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27 minutes ago, Jesse PNW said:

There are so many wonderful Sabals I know nothing about.  I feel like I never get a good understanding of a palm until I have one and get to know it. 

Agree completely. I’m familiar with trachys, but not like you guys in the PNW, that’s your bread and butter up there. 

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NWpalms@206 Experienced

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On 8/15/2021 at 4:35 AM, Jimhardy said:

I saw some Nanus x Wagnerianus on

Just got a Waggie x Nanus Monday from Dave Alverez. Nice little palms. they’re actually from Patrick too. 

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Nice palm .

I'm hoping my Princeps is a female because Big Daddy Nainital is right behind it . I'll have a Nainital and a Princeps hybrid hopefully .

I'll know whether it is a female in a couple years I think ?

Will

 

Below shows how close they are . Nainital behind the Princeps .

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N8ALLRIGHT Proficient

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Update on this little palm.

It took the place of a sloooowwww and underperforming takil. This is it's 1st season in the dirt and it's really taking off, lots of new fronds and has turned into a stout looking palm. It definitely likes the full sun and clay it's planted in. I know it won't like winter here much so it'll get protected Dec thru Feb 🤞 hopefully it will be a mild winter

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N8ALLRIGHT Proficient

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Update 

This little dude hasn't shot up much yet, but continues to thicken the base of the trunk. Roughly 6 or 7 in at the base. Hopefully poised for vertical growth next year.Did well with protection last winter. We've not had frost yet so everything continues to grow (shell ginger we see you) but it's definitely cooling 50s to 60s day and 40s and 30s night.  Anyways 

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That is a healthy looking lass or lad, time will tell which! I think you'll see some trunk next summer!

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