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I dug this palm out of the ground in Houston what species is it? I thought it was Minor but there were others with 4-5' of trunk, Sabal x brazoriensis maybe? it was growing in clay gumbo soil with hundreds of others.

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Can't comment on the photo but I know there are some Sabal minor native to SE Texas/Louisiana that are known to grow a few feet of trunk, I would assume that before I assumed brazoriensis as the wild population of brazoriensis is quite restricted.

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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22 hours ago, Little Tex said:

I dug this palm out of the ground in Houston what species is it? I thought it was Minor but there were others with 4-5' of trunk, Sabal x brazoriensis maybe? it was growing in clay gumbo soil with hundreds of others.

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Looks like a palmetto. Based on the fact I have them all over the place. 

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Well what palm was it under?  Hard to identify that small and Sabal are hard to ID anyway till mature.  

YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(8 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(3), etonia (1) louisiana(4), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  tamaulipas (1), (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7+), wagnerianus(1+),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  22'  Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1),  Blue Butia odorata (1), Serenoa repens (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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17 hours ago, Allen said:

Well what palm was it under?  Hard to identify that small and Sabal are hard to ID anyway till mature.  

There were sabal palmetto and sabal minor and some other I couldn't tell in the woods. Its not looking to good it dropped all of the leaves except for the new spear which is doing ok.

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I'd say palmetto then.  Palmetto and Sabal minor are difficult to move past strap phase.  Cut roots will die back to root initiation zone (Trunk) and regrow.  Small plants don't have the energy reserves to regrow roots and survive.  That is why only larger trunked Sabals are transplanted.  Dig a smaller one. under a foot tall.

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YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(8 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(3), etonia (1) louisiana(4), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  tamaulipas (1), (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7+), wagnerianus(1+),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  22'  Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1),  Blue Butia odorata (1), Serenoa repens (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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