Sabal minor, let’s see them!!!

[teddytn]

Sabal minor are so underrated. Everyone that can grow them should. Everyone regularly on the cold hardy section should have as many as possible. Being native to so many different states and areas there’s so much diversity in just this one Sabal species. I love growing them, but I also love seeing them. Let’s see some pics!!!

[Allen]

Found a few pics

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by Allen

[ColumbusPalm]

My favorite. Took 0F like a champ. 

[Chad king NC]

Just a few.

[teddytn]

Mccurtain 3 dwarfs in a rowNC doubleMore NCMature dwarf, 20 leaves and only 19” tall

[Chester B]

Mine is kind of hidden now. Back in the day it was the only palm in this area. 

[teddytn]

22 hours ago, Allen said:

Found a few pics

 

 

 

That one is looking thick!! Is that the CA minor?

[Allen]

12 minutes ago, teddytn said:

22 hours ago, Allen said:

Found a few pics

That one is looking thick!! Is that the CA minor?

Yep

Here are a few more pics

Don't forget minors need lights too!

Dwarf

Edited February 28, 2022 by Allen

[Little Tex]

wild specimen from the woods.

[jimmyt]

Wild population of S. minor along a creek on pvt. property in Washington county, Texas.  There are more than what is in the pictures. 

[palmhort]

I NEVER protect mine here in zone 7a NJ and they always look great except when the snow/ice pushed the fronds down. Otherwise they are care free!

[Chester B]

Not much to look at yet, but these are a couple of my own seed grown McCurtain. Last summer they doubled in size so I am looking forward to see what they do this year.  V- shaped fronds right now, hopefully some more mature fronds soon. Seed sourced from Oklahoma. 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Chester B

[Xerarch]

Here are a couple in native habitat photos, Corpus Christi, TX. 
 

[Will]

Still in a pot but its gonna get in the ground soon 

Edited February 28, 2022 by Will

[WSimpson]

 

Wild NC variant . This picture is on Gary Hollar's website . 

[teddytn]

3 hours ago, Will Simpson said:

 

Wild NC variant . This picture is on Gary Hollar's website . 

I wonder how old one that big is, 50 years, 100 years? 

[Xerarch]

Yeah that's a huge minor, especially in NC, looks like a 'Louisiana'

[teddytn]

This clip is always cool to get a look at some really old medium sized minors, if this is someone’s clip on PT thank you!

 

[teddytn]

On 2/27/2022 at 8:09 PM, Chester B said:

Not much to look at yet, but these are a couple of my own seed grown McCurtain. Last summer they doubled in size so I am looking forward to see what they do this year.  V- shaped fronds right now, hopefully some more mature fronds soon. Seed sourced from Oklahoma. 

How old are those guys, around 4 year olds?

[Chester B]

13 hours ago, teddytn said:

How old are those guys, around 4 year olds?

Great guess, you are correct.  The first couple years they were in a pot and when planted had about 4 or 5 small straps.  In the ground they are much quicker for me, and last year they did quite well.  Pictures are from April 2020.

Edited March 4, 2022 by Chester B

[teddytn]

1 hour ago, Chester B said:

Great guess, you are correct.  The first couple years they were in a pot and when planted had about 4 or 5 small straps.  In the ground they are much quicker for me, and last year they did quite well.  Pictures are from April 2020.

Checking the calibration on my Sabal age identification skills lol. 

[ky_palm064]

The "Louisiana" minor is great, but my favorite is the giant. I was near Carolina Beach (Wilmington, NC), where a state park there has ancient minors with 8 foot high fronds- a wonderfull tropical feel. 

This is my "giant" from Plants Delights.

[Will]

It almost pushed a lesf the last 3 weeks 

[Flow]

McCurtain and Blountstown dwarf. They like it dryish during winter where I live. 

[ky_palm064]

I noticed this fairly new south Louisiana state park while doing a google maps "flyover" of the area. Wikipedia says the park is "noted for its abundance of palmettos- mostly dwarf palmettos".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmetto_Island_State_Park

https://web.archive.org/web/20110309044417/http://www.crt.state.la.us/parks/ipalmetto.ASPX

[teddytn]

These are all pics I took at PDN. 
Cool woodland shotS. Minor mccurtain, massive specimens there.S. Minor chipola dwarf S. Minor talladegaS. Minor bear creekS. Minor pittsview S. Louisiana S. Minor wakulla dwarfS. Minor Emerald Isle giantS. Minor saline bayou

[Will]

 

Update on the Sabal minor I posted almost 2 years ago.

[teddytn]

10’0” tall Sabal minor in Gary Hollars front yard….they do exist! 😁Good 9’0” tall clump outside the office at the nurseryLook at the height of the doorway for reference 

[Jeff zone 8 N.C.]

[BeyondTheGarden]

Need to plant some of mine...  they look so good all clustered together though. 

[BeyondTheGarden]

22 hours ago, Jeff zone 8 N.C. said:

Where is that?  It looks wild!

[Memphis Nate]

Memphis! About 12 years old, had two leaves when I planted it. 

[BeyondTheGarden]

5 hours ago, Memphis Nate said:

Memphis! About 12 years old, had two leaves when I planted it. 

@Memphis Nate Welcome to palmtalk!  Your palm there looks a lot like a needle palm. 

[Jeff zone 8 N.C.]

6 hours ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

Where is that?  It looks wild!

It's on a small creek just off the mouth of the White Oak River, in coastal N.C.  These are a small swarm of the "Emerald Isle Giant" Sabal minor.  Emerald Isle (the island) which was the namesake for E.I. Giant is very near and forms the east bank of the river mouth right as it dumps into the sea. These same minors can be found well up the White Oak River, well into the Croatan National Forest, and on smaller islands in the river and sound. As a matter of fact S. minors can be found all up and down the N,C, coast.

[BeyondTheGarden]

37 minutes ago, Jeff zone 8 N.C. said:

It's on a small creek just off the mouth of the White Oak River, in coastal N.C.  These are a small swarm of the "Emerald Isle Giant" Sabal minor.  Emerald Isle (the island) which was the namesake for E.I. Giant is very near and forms the east bank of the river mouth right as it dumps into the sea. These same minors can be found well up the White Oak River, well into the Croatan National Forest, and on smaller islands in the river and sound. As a matter of fact S. minors can be found all up and down the N,C, coast.

After speaking with the very "Gary" from "Gary's Nursery", I am lead to believe that the NC form of S minor may be somewhat special.  He had a palm fanatic come up from Florida who could not believe how big the minors get up here.  I saw at least one S minor that was 10' tall at a random convenience store turned exotic animal sanctuary near Southern Pines NC.  It had virtually no trunk.  I had assumed all Sabal minor got this big.  Perhaps they do not, further south. 

[Jeff zone 8 N.C.]

33 minutes ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

After speaking with the very "Gary" from "Gary's Nursery", I am lead to believe that the NC form of S minor may be somewhat special.  He had a palm fanatic come up from Florida who could not believe how big the minors get up here.  I saw at least one S minor that was 10' tall at a random convenience store turned exotic animal sanctuary near Southern Pines NC.  It had virtually no trunk.  I had assumed all Sabal minor got this big.  Perhaps they do not, further south. 

That palm fanatic was Dr. Merrill Wilcox, a palm expert. I introduced Merrill to Gary and a trip was arranged with Merrill, his son Everett, Gary, and myself to see some big S. minors around eastern N.C.  Merrill was amazed at the sizes he was shown. Yes I believe they are special but not all show the large size. I don't know if that is due to location and soil or something else. The ones in the above picture are probably 6-7 foot. They get much bigger than that but wild ones with larger trunk are not as abundant as the smaller ones. The picture I posted above are on the west side of a salt marsh and most are bigger.  Just 200' (?) away, on the other side of the salt marsh there is a swarm that are much shorter and so dense you could not walk through the patch. Follow this link to Gary's Nursery for pics of some larger S. minor. GARY DOES NOT SHIP! But he does sell on site. http://www.garysnursery.com/

[BeyondTheGarden]

1 minute ago, Jeff zone 8 N.C. said:

That palm fanatic was Dr. Merrill Wilcox, a palm expert. I introduced Merrill to Gary and a trip was arranged with Merrill, his son Everett, Gary, and myself to see some big S. minors around eastern N.C.  Merrill was amazed at the sizes he was shown. Yes I believe they are special but not all show the large size. I don't know if that is due to location and soil or something else. The ones in the above picture are probably 6-7 foot. They get much bigger than that but wild ones with larger trunk are not as abundant as the smaller ones. The picture I posted above are on the west side of a salt marsh and most are bigger.  Just 200' (?) away, on the other side of the salt marsh there is a swarm that are much shorter and so dense you could not walk through the patch. Follow this link to Gary's Nursery for pics of some larger S. minor. GARY DOES NOT SHIP! But he does sell on site. http://www.garysnursery.com/

Yes!  Thank you for jogging my memory!  My conversation with Gary was over the phone, and he spoke of Dr Merrill Wilcox coming up from Florida!   I hate how horrible my memory is; as I get older my ROM/RAM performance decreases!  Anyway I need to get over to that part of the state and see Gary! 

[Marius]

A couple of mine

[PaPalmTrees]

Here are my sable minors

[Dwarf Fan]