Washingtonia Filibusta - Fayetteville NC

[Leelanau Palms]

On 3/6/2022 at 12:32 PM, Will Simpson said:

Thanks for the plants Knikfar . I appreciate the 2 extra you gave me . 

Here's a picture of them .

Will

 

Updates on these?

[Leelanau Palms]

On 3/7/2022 at 4:06 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

@ZPalms Dylan. I started the Fayetteville Washingtonia you sent using the baggie method. There's still more in need of potting up than seen here. 

 

 

Update on these seedlings?

[WSimpson]

Damn , those Washy seeds  really sprout easily . Mine are getting fairly big and will definitely go in the ground in March .

Will

They grow fast too !

3/6/2022

 

Today ; I have a bigger taller  one and a stubby one . One kicked the bucket from lack of watering it well last winter .

 

 

[NC_Palms]

If anyone still has seeds or seedlings of this palm i’ll be more than happy to buy a few : )

[Leelanau Palms]

8 hours ago, NC_Palms said:

If anyone still has seeds or seedlings of this palm i’ll be more than happy to buy a few : )

I am germinating ~ 60 seeds from @BeyondTheGarden (see earlier post/pic in this thread). I plan to pot them in deep (~9 inch) square liner pots. I will keep 2-4 for myself, but plan to pass along the rest that survive.  I would love to see them get good homes and watch them grow outdoors.  See the previous posts from others germinating them -  @knikfar and @Las Palmas Norte . They might also have what you are looking for. Thanks again to @BeyondTheGarden for his generosity.

[BeyondTheGarden]

Well my late-harvest shriveled up seeds are perfectly viable.  I gotta quit putting miracle grow in ziploc bags though. 

[ZPalms]

I wanna sprout some new washies seeds from this tree but the weevils keep getting all my seeds 😠

[Las Palmas Norte]

3 hours ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

I gotta quit putting miracle grow in ziploc bags though. 

I used straight perlite (damp) with some citrus (Yuzu) recently and no issues. I did ventilate a few times a week though.

[Las Palmas Norte]

2 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

I wanna sprout some new washies seeds from this tree but the weevils keep getting all my seeds 😠

How are you storing the seeds, or are the weevils already in the collected seeds?

Edited January 9 by Las Palmas Norte

[ZPalms]

1 minute ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

How are you storing the seeds, or are the weevils already in the collected seeds?

I collected them in a cup, and I suppose I gathered the seeds with the weevils already present in them, causing them to spread. I have no idea which seeds may still be good or not and which ones may have weevils in them.

[Las Palmas Norte]

13 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

I collected them in a cup, and I suppose I gathered the seeds with the weevils already present in them, causing them to spread. I have no idea which seeds may still be good or not and which ones may have weevils in them.

Is there a small entry point in the seed, like a hole that could eliminate the viability?

[BeyondTheGarden]

@ZPalms i've got some seed you can have, from the same batch, that don't have any sign of weevil so far as I can tell.  I went back today and brushed up more off the sidewalk; they're stored separate from the seeds that I harvested that were still hanging on the stalks.  I was planning on distributing today's "dirty" seeds in the garden this spring. 

[ZPalms]

Just now, Las Palmas Norte said:

Is there a small entry point in the seed, like a hole that could eliminate the viability?

Theirs never really a visible entry point, that's what makes it so hard 😭

[BeyondTheGarden]

I was searching through google, it looks like freezing seed for several days is a recommended method for killing pests in seed supplies.  I'll try this with some and see if there's any difference. 

[Leelanau Palms]

4 hours ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

Well my late-harvest shriveled up seeds are perfectly viable.  I gotta quit putting miracle grow in ziploc bags though. 

When did you start these?

[ZPalms]

5 minutes ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

@ZPalms i've got some seed you can have, from the same batch, that don't have any sign of weevil so far as I can tell.  I went back today and brushed up more off the sidewalk; they're stored separate from the seeds that I harvested that were still hanging on the stalks.  I was planning on distributing today's "dirty" seeds in the garden this spring. 

Would apperciate it, that would be awesome! I need to cast these bad seeds I have into the swamp and if any pop up then it would be neat.

[BeyondTheGarden]

1 minute ago, Leelanau Palms said:

When did you start these?

I harvested Dec 11th so probably a few days after that.  This is my second or third time germinating Washingtonia seeds and they've generally started popping in less than a month. 

[ZPalms]

3 minutes ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

I was searching through google, it looks like freezing seed for several days is a recommended method for killing pests in seed supplies.  I'll try this with some and see if there's any difference. 

I thought you couldn't freeze palm seeds, I thought it would kill them? I was recommended to try this, but it was after the fact. Maybe you could try it, or maybe I can try it on the seeds I have, though I'm not sure if any good seeds are left. 😭

 

[BeyondTheGarden]

6 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

I thought you couldn't freeze palm seeds, I thought it would kill them?

 

I don't know, but all of the seedlings that were present this year (before the palm nerds showed up with their shovels) must have been frozen at some point during last winter.  Certainly all of the seeds that were still on their stalks froze many times before falling to the ground. 

[ZPalms]

1 minute ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

I don't know, but all of the seedlings that were present this year (before the palm nerds showed up with their shovels) must have been frozen at some point during last winter.  Certainly all of the seeds that were still on their stalks froze many times before falling to the ground. 

Oh that is true 😂

[Las Palmas Norte]

Enjoying some sun before the polar vortex invades tomorrow.

 

 

One planted in-ground that I did a burlap wrap for cold insulation.

[knikfar]

On 1/8/2024 at 7:35 PM, ZPalms said:

I collected them in a cup, and I suppose I gathered the seeds with the weevils already present in them, causing them to spread. I have no idea which seeds may still be good or not and which ones may have weevils in them.

I noticed some weevils in my stored seeds so I soaked all of them in peroxide for a few days. That seemed to do the trick. I tossed the ones that were floating and kept the ones that sank to the bottom. That seemed to work. 

[Leelanau Palms]

1 hour ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Enjoying some sun before the polar vortex invades tomorrow.

 

 

One planted in-ground that I did a burlap wrap for cold insulation.

They look BEAUTIFUL! Good luck with the cold! How old are those pictured palms?

Edited January 10 by Leelanau Palms

[Las Palmas Norte]

7 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

They look BEAUTIFUL! Good luck with the cold! How old are those pictured palms?

Thanks. Two years growth from seed. Photos taken today (Jan. 10 /24)

 

[ZPalms]

 Sharing @BeyondTheGarden latest video of the washie, Looks great!

 

[WSimpson]

I can't wait to plant mine in the spring .

Will

[Leelanau Palms]

Cool video! My W. Filibusta 'Fayetteville ' seeds are germinating currently and will start going into pots shortly. 

Plan to post pics soon.

Edited January 18 by Leelanau Palms

[Las Palmas Norte]

I had my Fayetteville Washingtonia young 'uns out in the sun and fresh air today.

[Leelanau Palms]

Thanks to @BeyondTheGarden here are my Washingtonia filibusta 'Fayetteville" starts:

December 28th 2023 placed half of the ~ 60 seeds in MG potting soil and the other half in sphaghnum (placed under my sink where a heat vent warms)

Today, January 18, 2023 I potted up 11 sprouts in MG potting soil with perlite and vermiculite added.  More seeds (7) sprouted to date in the MG potting soil

The weather outside is frightful, but the washies inside are delightful.

Edited January 18 by Leelanau Palms

[BeyondTheGarden]

@Leelanau Palms Nice.  Not far at all behind my first batch.   These things are quick.  

Edit, mine were all white like that and after just a day or two under a weak grow light the cotyledons greened up.  Now the cotyledons have gone from green to violet brown and the first eophyl?? is pushing pure green. 

 

[knikfar]

I have one of my Fayetteville washy babies planted in the ground. I planted it almost a year ago. I didn't try and protect it through any of the cold events this year. It definitely has frond damage but we'll see how it gets through, or doesn't get through, the rest of the winter. I have another one in a pot outside, right up against the house. Its not showing any damage yet but I'm sure its enjoying its microclimate. My home weather station says we had a low of 18.8f this week. I know we had another low of 21.5 back in November and we're forecast to go down to 19f this weekend. 

[Leelanau Palms]

13 minutes ago, BeyondTheGarden said:

@Leelanau Palms Nice.  Not far at all behind my first batch.   These things are quick.  

Edit, mine were all white like that and after just a day or two under a weak grow light the cotyledons greened up.  Now the cotyledons have gone from green to violet brown and the first eophyl?? is pushing pure green. 

 

Very cool. Appreciate the little details on their progress 😊!I put mine in a warm interior closet today but plan to get them into natural or artificial light in the next day or two. 

[Leelanau Palms]

5 minutes ago, knikfar said:

I have one of my Fayetteville washy babies planted in the ground. I planted it almost a year ago. I didn't try and protect it through any of the cold events this year. It definitely has frond damage but we'll see how it gets through, or doesn't get through, the rest of the winter. I have another one in a pot outside, right up against the house. Its not showing any damage yet but I'm sure its enjoying its microclimate. My home weather station says we had a low of 18.8f this week. I know we had another low of 21.5 back in November and we're forecast to go down to 19f this weekend. 

How big is the planted washy baby? Got any pics to share? 

[knikfar]

8 minutes ago, Leelanau Palms said:

How big is the planted washy baby? Got any pics to share? 

It's about 3' tall if I had to guess. I've attached a photo I took in December. It looks rougher now. 

[Leelanau Palms]

Good luck. Keep us updated. Yes, I remember seeing that picture from a previous post 👍

[ZPalms]

I went out to see the washie today since I was that way anyway 🤠

Edited January 19 by ZPalms

[Leelanau Palms]

Looks like its in good shape!

[jwitt]

@Leelanau PalmsWonder what that root with no top would grow up to be?

Even moreso, what does a pot do to a thing like that?

Edited January 19 by jwitt

[Leelanau Palms]

7 hours ago, jwitt said:

@Leelanau PalmsWonder what that root with no top would grow up to be?

Even moreso, what does a pot do to a thing like that?

I'm not sure I understand your comment and question.  I potted the above sprout in a deep 3.5" pot. See the  @BeyondTheGarden post above for the expected development of the sprout.

"Edit, mine were all white like that and after just a day or two under a weak grow light the cotyledons greened up.  Now the cotyledons have gone from green to violet brown and the first eophyl?? is pushing pure green. "

[jwitt]

4 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

I'm not sure I understand your comment and question.  I potted the above sprout in a deep 3.5" pot. See the  @BeyondTheGarden post above for the expected development of the sprout.

"Edit, mine were all white like that and after just a day or two under a weak grow light the cotyledons greened up.  Now the cotyledons have gone from green to violet brown and the first eophyl?? is pushing pure green. "

I was referring to the root on the right which looks separate from the seedling it is nearly attached to.   I was amazed at the length.

Just something I have observed regarding washy roots, being so large when young, any sort of pot must restrain the roots.

Maybe I am mistaken, but I felt that long root was separate from the shorter root and sprout.  Either way, that is one heck of an aggressive root, something I have seen with filifera leaning washies. 

Ultimately my question is are both roots from the same seedling, or is the longer root still not sprouting top growth yet?