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Where to purchase Chamaedorea Radicalis?

knikfar

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knikfar Experienced

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I can't find Radicalis anywhere online. My local Lowes has the less hardy varities that are just labeled "Cat Palm". But I'd love to try a Radicalis outside in my zone 7b/8a garden. Just can't find them anywhere except for Jungle Music, which has the trunking variety. I've read the trunking form is less hardy so I'll need the non-trunking form. Anyone know where I can purchase some of these? 

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I have some arborescent form seedlings.  I bought some from Jeff Marcus at Floribunda and I grew some from seed.  They're easy germinators.  I just started an etsy page following our exchange, and I may decide to sell some of mine.  

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BeyondTheGarden Veteran

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Oh and they come up for sale here on PT sometimes.  I also got some from @Darold Petty

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NWpalms@206 Experienced

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I think Matt at Wanderlust said he had some when I was there in dec but not 100% sure, worth an ask.

 

amh Grand Master

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Looking for seed myself, especially the short form. About 100 to 200.

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1 hour ago, amh said:

Looking for seed myself, especially the short form. About 100 to 200.

Originally, 15-20 years ago I thought these were suppose to be clumping palms, I don't think they are, unless there are some hybrids out there. But that Is what I would wish for.

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11 minutes ago, Collectorpalms said:

Originally, 15-20 years ago I thought these were suppose to be clumping palms, I don't think they are, unless there are some hybrids out there. But that Is what I would wish for.

I’ve read the shrubby type are hardier than the trunking variety. But if they’re all basically trunking, I’m confused. There’s so much conflicting info online. It’s really difficult to know what’s what

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4 hours ago, Jesse PNW said:

I have some arborescent form seedlings.  I bought some from Jeff Marcus at Floribunda and I grew some from seed.  They're easy germinators.  I just started an etsy page following our exchange, and I may decide to sell some of mine.  

If you sell them, I will purchase. 

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1 hour ago, amh said:

Looking for seed myself, especially the short form. About 100 to 200.

 

11 hours ago, knikfar said:

I can't find Radicalis anywhere online. My local Lowes has the less hardy varities that are just labeled "Cat Palm". But I'd love to try a Radicalis outside in my zone 7b/8a garden. Just can't find them anywhere except for Jungle Music, which has the trunking variety. I've read the trunking form is less hardy so I'll need the non-trunking form. Anyone know where I can purchase some of these? 

Either of you try sending a personal message to @DoomsDave  Thought he has both forms, and has passed around oodles of seed off his specimens in the past.

His epic thread in the " freebies " section..



Any palm labeled " Cat " palm is likely referring to Chamaedorea cateractum,   which is entirely different from  C. radicalis..

An excellent thread about C. radicalis ..and both forms of it put together by the late Dick Douglas some time ago..
 

 

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Swolte said:

Doesn't @DoomsDave hand these out for free?

Anybody want some? Free radicalis seeds that is…..

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1 hour ago, Swolte said:

Doesn't @DoomsDave hand these out for free?

Yep, here's My batch grown from DD. Going on 1 year now, going to split em up into more pots soon. Just soaked em for a day, community pot and put them on a heat pad. They sulked for a bit but when temperatures started climbing they started popping. Excellent germination rate. DD had mentioned both forms could be in there so I'm waiting to see. 

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4 minutes ago, N8ALLRIGHT said:

Yep, here's My batch grown from DD. Going on 1 year now, going to split em up into more pots soon. Just soaked em for a day, community pot and put them on a heat pad. They sulked for a bit but when temperatures started climbing they started popping. Excellent germination rate. DD had mentioned both forms could be in there so I'm waiting to see. 

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Looks like you’re treating my babies right!

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Trying to! Thanks again:greenthumb:

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3 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Originally, 15-20 years ago I thought these were suppose to be clumping palms, I don't think they are, unless there are some hybrids out there. But that Is what I would wish for.

They are single trunked, but would be fine for successive group plantings. Radicalis and microspadix will hybridize, but we need more info on growth characteristics.

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6 minutes ago, amh said:

They are single trunked, but would be fine for successive group plantings. Radicalis and microspadix will hybridize, but we need more info on growth characteristics.

That's on my list of experiments to tinker with, years from now.  I don't know if any of my Chamaedorea will ever set seed here but I'm hopeful.  A suckering radicalis hybrid would be the bee's knees.  And microspadix is just a beautiful palm, I just wish it was a little more hardy.

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@Steve Machas produced hybrid offspring from his plants.

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13 hours ago, amh said:

They are single trunked, but would be fine for successive group plantings. Radicalis and microspadix will hybridize, but we need more info on growth characteristics.

A chamaedorea that clumped like microspadix with the foliage and sun tolerance of radicalis would be awesome

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1 hour ago, DAVEinMB said:

A chamaedorea that clumped like microspadix with the foliage and sun tolerance of radicalis would be awesome

All of my various palms are years away from fruiting, but I do intend to experiment with hybridizing. Chamaedorea appear relatively precocious, so the genus is ripe for experimentation. From my very limited research, not all Chamaedorea will cross, but Florida growers should have a great opportunity for experimentation.

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8 minutes ago, amh said:

All of my various palms are years away from fruiting, but I do intend to experiment with hybridizing. Chamaedorea appear relatively precocious, so the genus is ripe for experimentation. From my very limited research, not all Chamaedorea will cross, but Florida growers should have a great opportunity for experimentation.

I have a number of each planted next to each other and they flower almost constantly. I haven't gotten any seeds from any of them as of yet but perhaps this season I'll give nature a helping hand :happy:

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@knikfar if I ever get any seeds from my plants I'd be happy to send you some. Cold tested to 19F and covered in ice. I may have some microspadix this year as well if you're interested

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26 minutes ago, DAVEinMB said:

@knikfar if I ever get any seeds from my plants I'd be happy to send you some. Cold tested to 19F and covered in ice. I may have some microspadix this year as well if you're interested

Thank you so much! I'll take whatever anyone is willing to give me. And that will, hopefully, survive in my Raleigh yard. 

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16 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Anybody want some? Free radicalis seeds that is…..

I wish I'd seen this earlier. I already ordered some seed off Ebay. Are you planning on selling any of the plants themselves? 

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24 minutes ago, knikfar said:

Thank you so much! I'll take whatever anyone is willing to give me. And that will, hopefully, survive in my Raleigh yard. 

Absolutely, I'll keep you in the loop moving into the growing season. I have the arborescent form but I think you'll be happier with it in the long run. 

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On 3/9/2022 at 1:40 PM, NWpalms@206 said:

I think Matt at Wanderlust said he had some when I was there in dec but not 100% sure, worth an ask.

 

I do! I haven't posted them for sale on the site yet, but they're in 4" square pots at the moment, just little guys. I'll get around to listing them just as soon as I can get around to doing some inventory...

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Not sure this is helpful now since I think I just got his last one, but I just got a second (non trunking) specimen from Phil at Jungle Music (https://www.junglemusic.net/). The website is a bit of a gauntlet, but the service is fantastic once you get to emailing/calling Phil.  Earlier this year he sent me an even larger one, which I put in the ground last Nov.  Sure wish I had taken his advice and waited to plant that one since we had a disastrous cold snap in Seattle and it took on major leaf damage, but new growth is emerging! Going to wait to put my new one in the ground a few more weeks.

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8 hours ago, matthedlund said:

I do! I haven't posted them for sale on the site yet, but they're in 4" square pots at the moment, just little guys. I'll get around to listing them just as soon as I can get around to doing some inventory...

Awesome! Are those the Trunking or non trunking variant?

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Kinda, Welcome to Palmtalk !    :)

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Skulls Rookie

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On 3/9/2022 at 9:46 PM, DoomsDave said:

Anybody want some? Free radicalis seeds that is…..

I definitely want seeds if you have any to let go! 

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43 minutes ago, Skulls said:

I definitely want seeds if you have any to let go! 

Shoot me a PM with address. 

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15 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Shoot me a PM with address. 

Done and thank you so Much! I have just recently moved from z5 to z8b so I can finally grow some palms and I'm growing many! If you want or need I have Sabal Palmetto and Pindo in abundance available all around me! 

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On 11/5/2022 at 11:00 PM, DoomsDave said:

Shoot me a PM with address. 

Hey Dave, do you still have any seeds available ?

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2 hours ago, Robbertico18 said:

Hey Dave, do you still have any seeds available ?

Yes!

Shoot me a a PM with your address and I’ll mail you some 

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PM'd and thank you very much DoomsDave!

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